Fairly New, Some Questions~

[Archona]

1. Sell item drops like Scalekin Blood, Hides (Toadskin, Boar, Raptor Skin, etc), Diremite Web, Fleece, and any non-bound item rewards that you receive and don't need.
2. Start leveling a gathering class. Sell shards, crystals, carbonized matter for materia melds, dye pigments, and various other things you gather. Botany will give you things like lumber, various Culinarian and Alchemy materials, etc. Mining will give you ores, gemstones, and other crafting components (Alumen for Leatherworking, Effervescent Water for Natron and Twinthread, various salts for culinary and alchemical uses, etc).
3. When you hit a place where you "stall" leveling (i.e. you run out of quests while needing 1 more level to get to the next leg of quests), use your leve allowances. If any sort of armor or weaponry is offered as a reward, sell it on the marketboards - you'd be surprised at the money you can make off of some of the gear that is rewarded in leves.
4. Not really "making" gil, but avoid teleporting when at all possible. This will eat up your money like no one's business!
5. Start leveling a craft - using the gatherer class you are already leveling to compliment your chosen craft (i.e. Botany for Weaving, Culinarian, and Carpentry, Mining for Goldsmith, Armorsmith, Blacksmith, etc). While most (if not all) crafting classes will require items from all three gathering classes (including Fishing, sometimes!), having even one gathering class available to farm the ingredients you need will cut down on the money you have to spend to level the crafting class. Sell the items you create if at all possible. You can also use the items (if they're something like gear for your battle class) for leveling and take the Allagan pieces instead of gear rewards (which will net you more money).
6. Crush items that you no longer need into materia if they are 100% Spiritbonded. While you won't get a lot of gil for those lowbie materia, it's usually more than you would get for simply selling the item to a vendor to clear out your inventory space.

Just some opinions on these points:
1. I would vendor these, generally not worth trying to sell most of these crafting materials on the marketboard because they sell at 10-50 gil each only.
2. Sure, spare time, leveling a gathering profession can make you decent gil and set you up for treasure hunting in the future. Good idea, but focus on getting a battle class to 50 first or at the very least simultaneously.
3. If you're doing ALL the main scenario quests and side quests, then you shouldn't run out of quests until about Lv44-45. Any EXP dead zones can be filled with leves, or also dungeons and FATEs. Duty Roulette also helps a ton with those dead zones, but you shouldn't run into many EXP problems until the mid 40s.
4. Yup, rotate your 3 favorites and your home point constantly to save yourself gil.
5. Would not bother with crafting at all whatsoever. I've already said why: the gear you can craft is obsolete from quests/dungeon loot, you can buy them cheaply from vendors or on marketboard and leveling crafting professions takes time that you could spend on leveling. Professions will take weeks if not months of work to generate a profit.
6. The materia is typically as worthless as the gear until you get to III/IV materia, but yeah, no harm in disassembling them once the spiritbond is complete. Just don't count on those materia to sell very easily.

You should take gear rewards from quests only when you feel like you need to. Its wise to balance between gear rewards and gil.

[Atheena]

@Shirana

1.) Each class gets their own stats

2.) Some classes get cross abilities the weaker ones.

3. you can't make gil now the market has now crashed due to SE's stupid policies which forced people to hoard gil and make items and crafter's worthless! crafters are now a vanity Class!

[LiadansWhisper]

Just some opinions on these points:
1. I would vendor these, generally not worth trying to sell most of these crafting materials on the marketboard because they sell at 10-50 gil each only.

It depends very much on the server you are on. Skins, Fleece, Diremite Webs, and the like sell for quite a bit on my server. So do the higher level armors that I have received from Leve quests.

2. Sure, spare time, leveling a gathering profession can make you decent gil and set you up for treasure hunting in the future. Good idea, but focus on getting a battle class to 50 first or at the very least simultaneously.

That's a matter of opinion. I have several friends who don't even have a level 50 battle class, but have multiple level 50 craft and gathering jobs. There is no one "right" way to level, and taking it a bit more slowly while also leveling some stuff on the side is a great way to make money, which is what the OP was asking about.

3. If you're doing ALL the main scenario quests and side quests, then you shouldn't run out of quests until about Lv44-45. Any EXP dead zones can be filled with leves, or also dungeons and FATEs. Duty Roulette also helps a ton with those dead zones, but you shouldn't run into many EXP problems until the mid 40s.

But it does happen, and sometimes you miss a quest or whatever. In any case, those leves provide you with nice rewards and are a great alternative to grinding FATEs every few levels.

4. Yup, rotate your 3 favorites and your home point constantly to save yourself gil.

I just kept my home in Gridania and avoided using all other teleports other than Mor Dhona (which is on my favorites).

5. Would not bother with crafting at all whatsoever. I've already said why: the gear you can craft is obsolete from quests/dungeon loot, you can buy them cheaply from vendors or on marketboard and leveling crafting professions takes time that you could spend on leveling. Professions will take weeks if not months of work to generate a profit.

That entirely depends. First, sometimes a high quality piece of gear is much better than what you might get in a dungeon (especially if you meld it with cheap materia you have on hand from crushing other Spiritbonded gear). Walnut Bread sells on my server for 350gil each NQ, 550 HQ. That's a level 18 recipe. Lentils and Chestnuts (a level 17 recipe) sells for 75 gil each. Raw Oyster (a level 18 recipe) sells for almost 100gil each, and 1k each for HQ items. HQ Undyed Cotton Cloth (a level 13 recipe) sells for 300 gil each. HQ Undyed Velveteen Cloth sells for over 1k (and sells for 300 gil each for NQ). Aldgoat Leather (level 17 recipe) sells for over 250 gil each, and the HQ goes for well over 500 a piece. You can sell HQ versions of very low level items for much more than their vendor price - things like Copper Rings and Gorgets. If it's a gathering or crafting item, you can get even more for them, especially HQ versions. HQ Silver Ingots go for about 500gil a piece, HQ Iron Ingots go for about 200gil each, and HQ Steel Ingots go for around 400-500gil each. HQ Ash Pattens - a level 16 CRP recipe - go for 4k+ on my sever. Crafts can be totally profitable, even at low levels, as long as you take the time to check the market out.

6. The materia is typically as worthless as the gear until you get to III/IV materia, but yeah, no harm in disassembling them once the spiritbond is complete. Just don't count on those materia to sell very easily.

They sell very fast on my server, because they're used to increase the rate at which you Spiritbond high-end gear.

You should take gear rewards from quests only when you feel like you need to. Its wise to balance between gear rewards and gil.

If it's an upgrade, you should take it. If it's not an upgrade, take the gil.

[zakalw3]

Always take the Gil, never take the armour.

As you level, gear checks are very rare. And if you run into one and absolutely need an upgrade, you can use the Gil you chose to buy one from from the market.

Also, the gear you get as reward can be bought for less than the Gil reward almost always.

[Zakalwe]

Indeed I made this thread to ask for new player/beginning help xD
Based on what you have all said, I should only bother doing crafting for free gears through my own effort and time spent gathering materials. Accept the monetary rewards from quests and ignore the quest armor. In fact I do as Peptaru said, which is gather all the materials for yourself. It is Arduous but it works. [Snip] I'll do that when I am 50 and ready to upgrade my gears, maybe not even then if the lvl 50 stuff is boring. I do not know what Darklight/CT is, but if it matters, I am following a guides advice to get my grand company lvl 50 gears. Till then it seems I will worry about crafting and using crafted gears so that I can select monetary rewards over crafted gears. Also I think this is my last post I can make today thanks to heavy forum restrictions~

Dungeon drop gear is quite good, and augmented with gear you purchase from your Grand Company, you should be in good shape.

Also, you will likely find that once you get your Dragoon job you'll pretty much just be staying in that, not dropping back to lancer. You give up some cross skills but get to use some powerful job skills and also get other enhancements.

Welcome to this great game and remember to have fun!

[Peptaru]

More attitude for anyone who doesn't agree with you, as in another thread.

Dude... Guy... Person... you may be the most ridiculous person I've ever read posts from. Seriously. Thousands and thousands of posts... and I think you're winning. Again, you are failing to grasp a simple concept, if someone is enjoying themselves they are not wasting time. Again you cannot acknowledge any points counter to yours, no matter how sound they are. As someone else has pointed out, there are crafters and gatherers who enjoy the game with ZERO lv 50 DoM/DoW. You really need to realize there are other points of view, this whole personal fable-esque thing needs to just stop.

You do a fine job of not reading what I wrote, I said she'll catch up, not that she should do outdated content.

"highly suggest getting one character to level 50. . . then play however as you want. . ." But you don't tell people how to play.

The one benefit your posts have, is that the points people use to try to make you understand are the posts which are actually beneficial to new players.

Crafting brings steady, reasonable gil. You won't find huge sums of money to be had in FFXIV unless you join one of those "merc" crews. Stick to your quests, your crafts, whatever else you enjoy and the money will come.

If you can land a Free Company, they will have various FC (free company) buffs active at different times. Some of those are really handy for leveling or for saving money. Bonus to crafting stats, bonus to xp, reduced teleport costs and so on.

[ispano]

"highly suggest getting one character to level 50. . . then play however as you want. . ." But you don't tell people how to play.

You just made no sense at all. The word "suggest" is clearly there, which goes quite against you saying he's telling them how to play. His information is all valid, and he's not telling the person they are wrong to choose to do differently. He's just providing the information and you're bashing him for it.

The point is that his advice is not wrong, but neither is yours. You're just bashing him because it differs, and saying he's forcing when he's not. In that light, you'd be doing the same thing and be just as guilty.

Give your advice, let others give theirs. Let the person asking for it, choose what they want to do. Don't bash others advice because you disagree with it. As long as there is no mis-information going around, that's all that should happen.

[nostrade]

guys, stop derailing the thread
go get a room

[Peptaru]

You just made no sense at all. The word "suggest" is clearly there,

Did you skip the second part where it says "then play however as (lolgrammar) you want"? That says that he is saying what to do first, then play how they want... So he says both. He counters every piece of anything that he doesn't write by saying its wrong. (write, right, play on words!)

"He's not telling people they are wrong to choose to do differently." . . . He just calls it dumb, a waste of time, inefficient.... Are we even reading the same posts? We cannot be.

(As I did in the last post, too, I'll end with more advice.)

The introduction of dailies --as you gain higher levels-- and the rewards from duty roulette will add up if you can keep on top of them. I know it's hard to push myself into them every day, but i do each of the 4 roulettes a few times in a week, and do my beastmen dailies each day. My gil #'s keep going up.

[ispano]

Did you skip the second part where it says "then play however as (lolgrammar) you want"? That says that he is saying what to do first, then play how they want... So he says both. He counters every piece of anything that he doesn't write by saying its wrong. (write, right, play on words!)

"He's not telling people they are wrong to choose to do differently." . . . He just calls it dumb, a waste of time, inefficient.... Are we even reading the same posts? We cannot be.

(As I did in the last post, too, I'll end with more advice.)

The introduction of dailies --as you gain higher levels-- and the rewards from duty roulette will add up if you can keep on top of them. I know it's hard to push myself into them every day, but i do each of the 4 roulettes a few times in a week, and do my beastmen dailies each day. My gil #'s keep going up.

No, I didn't skip it, you skipped the first part and split them. It's ONE piece of advice. He suggests doing that, then to continue however you wish. Not two separate things. Next, the act of giving advice IS telling people what to do, just in your way of doing it. You're basically doing the same thing. It's not wrong, it's what advice is. Another thing is his "time is money", that's 100% correct. You say you gather the items yourself so it's free, this is false. That time could have been spent doing something else, or making money, or whatnot. You don't HAVE to do those things, no one is forcing you to, but it's not free.