Fairly New, Some Questions~

[Archona]

Indeed

I guess you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Good luck, you'll always be behind everyone else if you keep doing this, playing the game on super-slow mode.

It takes hours, days, if not weeks to level up crafting professions. If you really are a casual player with limited playtime, I don't know why you would want to spend it crafting gear for yourself when you can simply focus on leveling. You're not "saving gil" this way, its costing you a lot of gil every day you are not Level 50. Gear rewards at level 50 are limited to 450 Tomes of Mythology per week, so every week you are not 50 you are falling behind. The game only gets more exciting as you reach the end and there is more stuff to do. Not saying you have to RACE to the end, but that should be your goal, and you should know the disadvantages of not being level 50 yet.

[nostrade]

wow

your goal, is NOT everyone goal
why does it matter to you when someone else want to play with their own pace? do you pay their subscription fee?

[Archona]

No, I dont, which is why I said its their choice, but they should at least be informed about what their decision means exactly, especially a new player such as the OP who clearly has no idea how the endgame in this MMO works. Sorry, but EVERY Final Fantasy, EVERY RPG is about finishing the story and seeing the end (Aside from sandbox RPGs). MMOs = massively multiplayer, and that means being level 50. You wont find the "massively multiplayer" experience while leveling, especially when you're playing months after the initial launch. Like I said, you don't have to race for it, but that should be your goal: to finish the story, reach the end, beat the game, and watch the ending at some point, eventually. Don't know where you're trying to go by disputing this. I never said you couldn't enjoy the journey to the end, but you're not doing anybody any favors by not enlightening them at least a little bit about the nature of MMO endgame. I don't pay any one's sub fee but mine, but I encourage people to be smart with their money and their time, not remain ignorant in their naivete.

[Nysneirdre]

Lets be realistic here. Yes you can level you way to end game with crafted gear if you so choose to spend your time doing it and you will be spending a lot of time if you choose that route. Yes you can make money with crafting and resource gathering which also takes a good amount of time.

But.......The people who know how to do this properly aren't going to come onto the general forums and ask how to make gil in the game. Random poster 787654 asking how to make cash and also stating they burned through their quest reward cash with teleports most likely isn't going to have the knowledge or patience to do this. For that person, the most logical thing to do is continue with the story line quests, using the duty finder to get dungeon runs for gear, and save the money from burning through teleports.

[FMElan]

I guess you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Good luck, you'll always be behind everyone else if you keep doing this, playing the game on super-slow mode.

Oh my God, and you know what that means? That means she'll never be the best of the best in a video game! THE HORROR!

Seriously, dude. Just stop. Let people enjoy playing the game the way that they want to. This is a game filled with people who rushed their asses to 50 and now complain about how they have no content. And then you have someone who wants to take their time and enjoy different aspects of the game(like crafting and gathering), as well as getting a different sense of accomplishment and your advice is to...ignore all of that and just get to 50, because otherwise they'll fall behind?

[Peptaru]

Oh my God, and you know what that means? That means she'll never be the best of the best in a video game! THE HORROR!

For reals yo! Oh, until we all run out of content and she catches up anyway. Or until the next i100 items come into the game and don't require i90 to get. Or until they add crafted gear that is closer to/caught up to the i90 stuff and she'll have her crafts done. . . The gear people spend hours upon hours grinding for is outdated the moment you own it, like computers.

Right on with the sentiment

[Archona]

Oh my God, and you know what that means? That means she'll never be the best of the best in a video game! THE HORROR!

Seriously, dude. Just stop. Let people enjoy playing the game the way that they want to. This is a game filled with people who rushed their asses to 50 and now complain about how they have no content. And then you have someone who wants to take their time and enjoy different aspects of the game(like crafting and gathering), as well as getting a different sense of accomplishment and your advice is to...ignore all of that and just get to 50, because otherwise they'll fall behind?

For reals yo! Oh, until we all run out of content and she catches up anyway. Or until the next i100 items come into the game and don't require i90 to get. Or until they add crafted gear that is closer to/caught up to the i90 stuff and she'll have her crafts done. . . The gear people spend hours upon hours grinding for is outdated the moment you own it, like computers.

Right on with the sentiment

I'm not forcing OP in any way to use one method or another, merely pointing out the pros and cons. If you want to take your time and play the game, go ahead and do so. Players who ask for advice do not need to be told to take it slow; thats what they're already doing. Players, especially new ones, should know just exactly what that means, and a person new to MMOs should definitely learn just how MMOs work. Maybe you are okay with mediocrity and never improving or changing, but I for one want everyone to be their best, play their best, and know what they're getting into. OP asked for advice, so I assumed that they're somewhat interested in self-improvement. If you read my posts you can see that I don't care what playstyle you choose, I only care that you're educated about the nature of the situation and not simply wasting your time and money.

You two seem to feel fine oppressing new players and keeping them unaware about the bigger picture.

Peptaru not sure why you suggest its favorable to wait for content to be outdated before you experience it. That is awful advice and that is essentially robbing the OP of very valuable and fun experiences. Why play the game now at all? Just wait a few more years for expansions to come out lolololol

In any case, I still highly suggest getting one character to level 50 reasonably quickly, and then play however as you want with future characters/classes. Once you have a Lv50 you can go back and play slow-mo on another class or character if you want, and still have the option to make gil quickly at anytime, and still have the benefit of experiencing the game with the vast majority of its players.

What you are suggesting is for them to waste another month or two's worth of time and money doing something that can be done within a week, without all the options and bonuses above.

Go fast, go slow, doesn't matter, just know that if you go slow you put yourself at a severe disadvantage for every single bit of content in the game. Less players queueing up for those dungeons/raids, less people doing FATEs, less gil to earn, etc. Eventually if you're too slow then content becomes outdated as people outgear/outlevel it and then by the time you get there, you're not even experiencing the content the way it was meant to. Sure this might not matter to you, but new players should still at least be aware that consequences like this exist.

[FMElan]

What you are suggesting is for them to waste another month or two's worth of time and money doing something that can be done within a week, without all the options and bonuses above.

...We're playing a game, man. All we're doing is wasting time and money. I never got this whole rush to be as efficient as possible in a video game. The entire point is that we're being inefficient.

[Archona]

...We're playing a game, man. All we're doing is wasting time and money. I never got this whole rush to be as efficient as possible in a video game. The entire point is that we're being inefficient.

I never got this "we're playing a game so we can't be efficient" argument. For many, including me, games are a test of reflexes, skill, knowledge, and logic. If I wanted to shut off my brain, I'd just watch TV. Video games should be about engaging yourself. For many, we can't play 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Don't hate on people who enjoy using their heads a little bit. It doesn't ruin the game, it only enhances it as it allows us to fully experience the game while challenging ourselves every step of the way.

[Peptaru]

More attitude for anyone who doesn't agree with you, as in another thread.

Dude... Guy... Person... you may be the most ridiculous person I've ever read posts from. Seriously. Thousands and thousands of posts... and I think you're winning. Again, you are failing to grasp a simple concept, if someone is enjoying themselves they are not wasting time. Again you cannot acknowledge any points counter to yours, no matter how sound they are. As someone else has pointed out, there are crafters and gatherers who enjoy the game with ZERO lv 50 DoM/DoW. You really need to realize there are other points of view, this whole personal fable-esque thing needs to just stop.

You do a fine job of not reading what I wrote, I said she'll catch up, not that she should do outdated content.

"highly suggest getting one character to level 50. . . then play however as you want. . ." But you don't tell people how to play.

The one benefit your posts have, is that the points people use to try to make you understand are the posts which are actually beneficial to new players.

Crafting brings steady, reasonable gil. You won't find huge sums of money to be had in FFXIV unless you join one of those "merc" crews. Stick to your quests, your crafts, whatever else you enjoy and the money will come.

If you can land a Free Company, they will have various FC (free company) buffs active at different times. Some of those are really handy for leveling or for saving money. Bonus to crafting stats, bonus to xp, reduced teleport costs and so on.