Game Getting DULL

[indira]

VERY DULL only focus is to get lv90 gear most content can be skipped.

most the people here get there hands held through content reason they think its so exciting. once they hit the DF you see the fail in action lv90 and cant stop eating AOE's then blames everyone and rage quits.

[Dyvid]

Wow, that article was published on 2012. I thought it was talking about this board, lol!

I know right.

[Hyrist]

There are a flood of counter-questions I have for the unsatisfied.

1. What is your goal(s) with MMOs, why are you playing?

2. Do you skip content, and in what way does skipping content achieve that above goal?

3. Do you disapprove of the tiered difficulty of specific runs (Ex Haukke Manor normal and Hard, Ifrit Story, Hard, and Extreme, etc.) And if so, do you also dislike difficulty tiers in single -player games such as Mass Effect and The Elder Scrolls?

I cannot help but conclude that a lot of those who are unsatisfied are simply not the target audience for this game, or perhaps were not the priority audience.

[Ahzarhuuk]

VERY DULL only focus is to get lv90 gear most content can be skipped.

most the people here get there hands held through content reason they think its so exciting. once they hit the DF you see the fail in action lv90 and cant stop eating AOE's then blames everyone and rage quits.

The game sometimes likes to forcefeed you AoEs.
The number of times I've stood outside of the red for whole 2 seconds and still get smacked is atroctious.

[Eldryan]

I've been playing since the launch of 1.0 and found myself becoming disappointed in ARR. MMOs nowadays are all about instant gratification, designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator and not targeted at the old-school mmorpger who's past goal was to build a community rather than raise their iLvl.

Many white knight will say, "well you haven't done such and such, so you can't say the game is dull" or if you have done those things, their response would be, "well you shouldn't have rushed through everything!" Either way you can't win.

I'm going to take this time to say I will be cancelling my subscription after 3 years because I don't see this game going in the direction that would appeal to me.

To the development team, thank you for your hard work and best of luck with the future of FFXIV. I don't regret playing my small part in the development of ARR with my support through the past 3 years, but I'm afraid the Legacy ends here for me.

Take care everyone, and play nice!

[Hyrist]

Eldryan I find it difficult to even engage conversation with such a definitive statement that expresses both a distaste both for the current state in the game, and the majority of the game's base in one swift stroke.

What I will state is that in the 'old days' of gaming. MMO players, and gamers in general were a very small niche of society, isolated and ridiculed. Though for what they were to one another was welcoming and accepting because of this.


Now that gaming is far more widely accepted, I have regretfully seen a reversal in such attitudes from the 'old school' instead of welcoming, they are instead very indignant, clutching to the days in which they felt their position as a gamer made them feel special, in spite of the world viewing them poorly. I find myself longing for the days that our community welcomed every newcomer, shared in the passion of the game regardless of whether or not it appealed specifically to them and still maintained a sense of wonder in the hard work and dedication that is provided for us to merely enjoy our free time.

Communities are still building, but what sort of example is the old-school gamer setting if we have forgotten the very fundamentals of the communities we bemoan are not being created?

I accept the fact that the game does not appeal to you, and respect your decision to leave the game. I hope that your future gaming endeavors are more fruitful.

However, I appeal to your better humanity in the future when it comes to your view of the modern generation of gamers, and the games that are being produced. Even if the carrot is reachable, it does not mean you cannot build a caring community or find joy in the individuals you share such times with.

[Tupsi]

There are a flood of counter-questions I have for the unsatisfied. [...]

Given how you always disregard what anyone says anyway, while I'm not 'unsatisfied', I'll answer 2 questions:

2. I skip no content in MMOs - What some won't admit is that in XIV, you can go through most of the content fairly fast if you're not going at a slow pace or have only 2 hours a day to play. Just because you have more than 2 hours a day to play doesn't always mean you have "no life" or "rush", it simply means you have time to enjoy the content and after a couple of months since launch, realistically 3 years (even yoshi stated this in his last letter just a few days ago) you've done most if not all of the content, and leveling doesn't count as content.

3. MMO difficulty =/= Offline game difficulty and quite frankly, that's reaching - For one thing tiered difficulty in MMOs generally offer new routes, different bosses and different reward. Offline single player/Co-Op game difficulty selection tend to only increase monster stats, count, AI and sometimes loot. They're not comparable.

You feel the people who are unsatisfied aren't the target audience because they'll be the ones to actually speak up about the game in an unbiased manner. Think about it, the only time an MMO is specifically trying to keep people out of it (your logic presented) is when it's MMOs that are IP/Region locked - Otherwise MMOs are open to everyone and developers have to develop to try to keep either a happy medium or a large portion of their players happy - P2P based games wants everyone's money.

The target audience of this game is casual gamers, that much is true - However, if you stop and think..don't you realize that unless you are extremely casual in having only a few hours a week to play, there's absolutely no way to not be done with at least vanilla content unless you simply chose not to do the content..? It takes almost no time to get your first class to 50 which immediately opens up end-game, the rest is simply gear farming.

[Tupsi]

Until I see a decrease in players ( in which I haven't seen it yet), the this statement is stale to me.

Up until 2.1 there was an obvious decrease in players lol. As with all MMOs big updates brought people back. Don't say "that is your opinion" because my cousin plays on Masamune and even said the population started thinning out last month. Note: Thinning doesn't necessarily mean they quit, it means they likely took a break or hopped servers to one that is more populated.

[Starlord]

Up until 2.1 there was an obvious decrease in players lol. As with all MMOs big updates brought people back. Don't say "that is your opinion" because my cousin plays on Masamune and even said the population started thinning out last month. Note: Thinning doesn't necessarily mean they quit, it means they likely took a break or hopped servers to one that is more populated.

I will say it lol "That's your opinion" XD

Edit: We are almost 2 weeks into 2.1 and every time I log in "including today" there's a horde of people on my server doing stuff. ( That's is my perspective).

[Peptaru]

Up until 2.1 there was an obvious decrease in players lol.

22 people on my list of peeps haven't been on for over 40 days. Not even 2.1 brought them back. They stopped. Poof. No mas. FC's and statics are constantly having to fill slots because of these incidents.

Well 22 is not a lot! It's over half the list of people i talk ... see: talked, to.

To the folks pointing at the influx of fresh meat, yes there are new players. Always will be. Give them 3 or 4 months and many will already be gone. This thread has the perspectives of people who've already been here that long, or longer.