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  1. #151
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    ArcheustheWise's Avatar
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    Kazek Natasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    (That can even be as simple as talking to your friends)
    Ah here we go. Semantics. But the most important one yes? Let me put on my devils advocate hat one more time here. Maybe that's why many people stick with this game. I know i do. But lets ask one important question:

    If all your friends would be gone and the majority of players were to, say, leave to an upcoming mmo, would you still play? Would the game hold up on its own? I guess the real question is, do you play the game for the game or are you simply here for an over-glorified chatroom?

    In otherwords.. just because you have fun socializing in a game does not make it a good game. The game must be able to stand on its own merits, not have a crutch like socialization, because in all reality, you can do that in any multiplayer game.

    But i digress. people that will like it will do so.
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  2. #152
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    Biggest thing was there free company houses , if you look at the other 50+ mmos with guild type homes. That square we assume never did research on and made a lot players lose there trust. And it has felt like there still lost in ver 1.0. Feels like we went back a decade on there guild houses. Be nice that they get some other people hired to help them. It would be cool big name consult , also to get stuff caught up, Seem yoshi-p only one that got a clue and not enough people behind him. I know those that working on stuff are working there behinds off to get it done and they have done a great job to a avg point, but with the right help you would cut it down by 50% the work load and faster game and updates.

    Give the man the money CliffyB.
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    Last edited by mindful; 01-02-2014 at 05:27 AM.

  3. #153
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcheustheWise View Post
    -snip-
    Of course it can't hold it's weight if not many players played. I just don't understand why people say game has potential ( some people 3 years) if they truly dislike the game. Why put themselves in all that torture? Spending 15 bucks a month.

    I know people want this game to be great ( and the game is great personally), but for the other people, if you were the ones the paid every month up until now 1 year and 4 months= roughly 130 bucks. Let me ask you, was it worth all that money currently? ( I am asking those who are really complaining about the game hardcore but still play anyways.)
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  4. #154
    Player Kusanagi7's Avatar
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    Primal Ishtar
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    Moogle
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    i have to admit im finding it a bit dull
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  5. #155
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Honestly, I didn't log sense like, a week before Halloween. And that was just for the ghost costume.

    The whole dungeon raid thing isn't really my scene, and it's become the most important part of the game. I'd like to work on crafting and gathering, but there's no real point, and most of the side stuff is very robotic and bureaucratic in its presentation....
    Hate to say it, but I'm in the same boat as Gramul. I started ffxiv with a desire to focus on crafting and gathering, since my prior experiences with mmos often left me penniless. After completing the story, updating my crafting gear for advanced recipes, getting ready for coil, and going on the mother of all grinds with my chocobo, I feel I have so little to show for my work, and that SE is marginalizing all of the things I was enjoying (my chocobo can only participate with overworld content, coil is only once a week on success, my crafts have a glass ceiling with item caps and can only go to i70), in their place lies the way of more dungeons with people that bail at the first sign of difficulty, a stagnant economy, and red tape.

    I have a lovely FC, I don't have a lovely game, and I honestly am not certain what else is left to look forward to given the lack of customization.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 01-02-2014 at 07:27 AM.

  6. #156
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    Kenshiro Joestar
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    The mechanics Yoshi and his team have selected to stretch out content and thus keep people subscribed are inherently dull, so the game is dull by design.

    The main target of the methods the game has is to make the player (feel) bad for not playing, creating the sense that they are falling behind if they do not max their Myth each week, get their Coil run complete and get the CT drop of the week, because if a week passes and you did not fill those, you cannot recover that again, and you will be behind the rest of the people who did. Adding to this one are the new Beast tribes daily quests, if you don't do them, you won't max their reputations whit everyone else who started at day one. This is also enforced by the fact that crafted gear is worthless at high level, so if any player want to do the end content, they must pursue all the other gear.

    I know everyone plays at different pacing, but the sense is there, if you are playing with a friend and you cannot log in one day, you will be behind him. So the game is now a set of tasks that must be completed daily and each week, and as such, they get old and boring, fast. The game it's designed to force you to play, whether you are having fun or not, and most probably, you are not having fun, not with these tasks the game is imposing. The fun comes form the play time with friends and the human interaction. Maybe the fights and instances were fun the first 10 times, but after all the forced grind, they aren't. And with this, if the fun comes from playing with friends, the Duty Roulette forcing you to go alone, just detracts from that point because you cannot even /tell your friends inside an instance (and no, not everyone has their same friends in the same FC/LS or want to talk about everything wherever someone else can read).

    There are many other design "flaws" in my eyes in this game, but those are the biggest, and they won't change because this is Yoshi's vision for ARR, and looking at the changes they made through 1.0 to 1.23 and then further to ARR and now 2.1, it seems it's only to get worse and worse.

    I already quit and canceled my subscription, and I'm sad about it, because I was really invested in FFXIV, but it's no longer FFXIV, it's ARR, a game I really never wanted to play.
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    Last edited by Dannythm; 01-02-2014 at 08:15 AM.

  7. #157
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    Kazek Natasch
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    Pretty much what Dannythm and Kallera above me said, to the dot.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post

    I already quit and canceled my subscription, and I'm sad about it, because I was really invested in FFXIV, but it's no longer FFXIV, it's ARR, a game I really never wanted to play.
    Good for you canceling your sub. Hopefully they get you playing again. Instead of content patch we just need huge adjustment patch to the game.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Good for you canceling your sub. Hopefully they get you playing again. Instead of content patch we just need huge adjustment patch to the game.
    If the adjustment includes a slower paced combat, interesting exploration and a dangerous world, open world instances, crafted gear being the best in the game and the physical/class level separated again, I may come back if not... I have until April to post in the forums while my sub runs out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    If the adjustment includes a slower paced combat, interesting exploration and a dangerous world, open world instances, crafted gear being the best in the game and the physical/class level separated again, I may come back if not... I have until April to post in the forums while my sub runs out.
    Crafted gear being the best gear in the game forces you to use rmt, which is the exact reason why I quit playing ffxi, because you were forced to buy gil to progress through the game. The day the game becomes like that I quit playing.
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