ITT: someone hurt OP's feelings so he decides to post a bunch of stuff stereotyping people who advance in the game. Somebody get him a warm bottle and some preparation H.
ITT: someone hurt OP's feelings so he decides to post a bunch of stuff stereotyping people who advance in the game. Somebody get him a warm bottle and some preparation H.

it is already too late
It's too late for that, I'm 90% sure only about 15-30% of the people playing ARR are people who have been around since FFXI and that about 20% of those players played 1.0 and are legacy players now. The rest are just new to ARR and are head over heels in love with it.
That 70% player base that are new to ARR have come from other MMO's like Tera,Rift,WoW and other WoW cloned games because everything else out there is basically a WoW clone so what is it that they want for ARR? They want ARR to be the same as those other games because it's what they like so I'm sorry to inform you but your hopes for this community being anything other than like WoW or any other game like WoW are not very high.
The majority of this community already is becoming like WoW and players who care about the old Final Fantasy mechanics are vastly outnumbered now. Being one of those older Final Fantasy players I have to say, I am not impressed at all.
Last edited by Vandark; 12-28-2013 at 12:39 AM.
This proves my point. I post something like this, and I get flamed for it. Listen, I am NOT downing WoW, I played for several years and enjoy the hell out of the game, I am comparing how SOME people act in WoW, is similar to here. Yes, I know this type of behavior is not limited or started with WoW. I am not trying to put anyone down, I just didn't want to experience that type of behavior on XIV. And no, no one hurt my feelings, these were just observations ive witnessed throughout normal gameplay. A little kindness and consideration towards others never hurts, ever, but some people just don't want to hear it. Im not here to change your minds, just throwing my 2 cents out there, this IS the official forum after all, and Dreadlockrasta, I am NOT stereotyping people who want to advance, im in the same category; im just asking that people not be douchewipes like you find in other MMO's. Its wishful thinking, I know, and complaining about it serves no point, but like most people on here, Im going to put it out there anyway.
Last edited by Darkdrover; 12-28-2013 at 05:19 PM.


And you could do all that without blanketing the WoW community (ie. people that came from WoW) as the people you want to avoid, but you didn't. You don't get to claim high ground on this one.This proves my point. I post something like this, and I get flamed for it. Listen, I am NOT downing WoW, I played for several years and enjoy the hell out of the game, I am comparing how SOME people act in WoW, is similar to here. Yes, I know this type of behavior is not limited or started with WoW. I am not trying to put anyone down, I just didn't want to experience that type of behavior on XIV. And no, no one hurt my feelings, these were just observations ive witnessed throughout normal gameplay. A little kindness and consideration towards others never hurts, ever, but some people just don't want to hear it. Im not here to change your minds, just throwing my 2 cents out there, this IS the official forum after all, and Dreadlockrasta, I am NOT stereotyping people who want to advance, im in the same category; im just asking that people not be douchewipes like you find in other MMO's. Its wishful thinking, I know, and complaining about it serves no point, but like most people on here, Im going to put it out there anyway.
The Blatant WoWphobia that grips other MMOs is just hilarious

If you want to change the world, try starting with the toon in the mirror. You look down on people who play WoW and blame them for any and everything. That is the very definition of elitist. The community in Wow has good people and bad, just like here. A person is every bit as capable of kindness and sunshine and light if they're a lvl 90 worgen druid, a level 75 tarutaru dark knight or a lvl 50 miqote with bubblegum hair. Chances are they're probably the same person. And those same people are just a scapable of being douchewipes who greet every imperfection with a slam against WoW. And sorry, saying "I'm not downing WoW" while repeatedly dowing WoW does not magically transform you words into something they are not.
Stop blaming your social inadequacies on WoW, it's boring.
"We're all different. But there's something kind of fantastic about that isn't there?"
"I'm tired of being polite about something that matters so much" ~ Joss Whedon
"The person who says that the only way to please them is to restrict options for others is, if you ask me, the onewho deserves it least." ~ David Gaider
"Sorry for the inconvenience, we're trying to change the world." ~ The Protester
Ok, so how am I continually downing WoW? Please be specific. Did I not say that I too play WoW? Did I not say I enjoy the game? I was using Wow as a COMMON BASE REFERENCE because it was the last MMO I played before this one. Some of you are just picking a fight where there is none. WoW is a great game, and it has some great people, but it, like any other MMO, has horrible people sometimes. This is a relatively new community, so I had only expressed my hopes that we could keep it fun and friendly. I now see that that was an impossibility from the get go. Some of you are taking things out of context. I love WoW, I just didn't love SOME of the people. If you were under the impression that I was dumping on WoW, get over it. I played for several years, I have five toons at 90, and I cleared the MoP content. So Im not sure where you are getting that I hate WoW and everything about it. If you still don't get that, or you just want to be obstinate, fine. But if you are attacking me because of some perceived slight on something that you enjoy, then are you any better? tell me true...
I also think that some of you were just reading the title of the thread, and then responding without reading all the posts. But I feel as if even if I had changed the title to something like, "Cant we all just get along?" some of you lot would have flamed me simply for daring to ask for common courtesy and kindness. Let me admit, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, that the choosing of my thread title was inflammatory and was not my intention. Apologies. Now, if you want to continue to flame, be my guest...



* The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
* Design ideas:
Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)
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