Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3
Results 21 to 27 of 27
  1. #21
    Player
    Warlyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    3,065
    Character
    Warlyx Arada
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    bard is hardly support in ffxiv ,a song that boost magic dmg (if u have a caster) or a regen mp song ....are nice to have dont get me wrong but thats it...

    is monk support because stun has mantra?

    or drg stun , piercing debuff, slow ?

    is smn support because can rez in combat ,eye for eye , virus , debuffs (heavy , disease....)

    is warrior support because stun, -10% dmg received debuff?
    (0)

  2. #22
    Player
    Peptaru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    897
    Character
    Tarragon Lai
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 50
    There is a huge difference between what a bard can do and other classes can do. The closest thing is the piercing and slashing resist down because they work for more than one job, but neither of those can hold a candle to ballad or requiem --both of these are disgustingly strong. Paeon is [largely] useless, but in one or two spots it can make an entire strategy go more smoothly.

    Notice most of the things you bring up debuff the mob, not empower the party. Empowering the party is what support does.

    Support vs. Enfeeble, not that we have an enfeebling job because everyone has a little bit of that pie.
    (0)

  3. #23
    Player
    KHShadowrunner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    109
    Character
    Dalia Shadowrunner
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    One was mandatory but no one liked to play it, the other was relegated to cure-botting with token gunshots via Light Shot because SE was boneheaded enough to make COR ammo difficult and very expensive to obtain. That's not what I would call a winning formula.
    Not to throw a hissy fit, but I played bard for years in XI, absolutely loved playing it. So much fun, so many smiling faces. I'll admit I was probably a weird one tho.
    (1)

  4. #24
    Player
    Warlyx's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    3,065
    Character
    Warlyx Arada
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    There is a huge difference between what a bard can do and other classes can do. The closest thing is the piercing and slashing resist down because they work for more than one job, but neither of those can hold a candle to ballad or requiem --both of these are disgustingly strong. Paeon is [largely] useless, but in one or two spots it can make an entire strategy go more smoothly.

    Notice most of the things you bring up debuff the mob, not empower the party. Empowering the party is what support does.

    Support vs. Enfeeble, not that we have an enfeebling job because everyone has a little bit of that pie.
    requiem is a pbaoe debuff and is strong because BLM and SMN are strong DPS and partys are usually

    1-2 tank (90% of content is 2 tank)
    1-2 heal (u can do some bosses with 1 healer if no1 does mistakes)
    4-5 dps (usually 2-3 casters 1 brd 1 melee)

    if partys were 1-2 drg 1-2 brd 1 caster

    brd worked on FFXI because u could stack melees on 1 party with a brd, in FFXIV u cant do that
    (0)
    Last edited by Warlyx; 12-28-2013 at 12:56 AM.

  5. #25
    Player
    ReplicaX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,020
    Character
    Methos Ranperre
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Why are ppl referring to XI's bard? Their early purpose in XI was more meaningful and helpful, yet the community exposed and abused its flaws, thus destroying the job. (They put up buffs and drop/rotate alliance pts, then sit outside pts as you were replaced by more DPS and cant do a damn thing for the PT or to the enemy.)

    Every job in this game gives minor support to its party or at least another job in the party. At this time a true support role isn't needed at all unless they change the fight and battle mechanics specifically to add it in.
    (1)

  6. #26
    Player
    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    627
    Character
    Rosenthal Hogire
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Noata View Post
    Support is a role, not a class. . .
    I'm pretty sure the OP means a class with a majority of its skills and play style geared towards buffing the party / themselves Mr. smart guy.

    I think its possible and it would be pretty interesting to see a class that focused more on enhancing a groups overall output of heals dps defense etc.
    (0)
    YouTube.com/c/iBluairjgr

  7. #27
    Player
    Zantetsuken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1,979
    Character
    Siorai Aduaidh
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    RDM in FFXI was also a solid support class.

    Refresh, Haste, Refresh, Bio, Refresh, Slow, Refresh, Paralyze, Refresh, Blind, Refresh, Dia, Refresh, Poison, Refresh, Gravity, Refresh, Regen, Refresh, Bind, Refresh, Stoneskin, Refresh, Phalanx, Refresh, Protect, Refresh, Convert, etc, etc... Never a dull moment for RDMs.
    (0)
    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 12-28-2013 at 07:51 AM.

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3