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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Who here actually likes seeing there Win to Lose ratio in pvp?

    Personally I really dislike this feature, I’m a perfectionist and having loses on my character puts me off wanting to play PvP because often you can’t help what happens in a team environment.

    I would rather there was no performance record on my menu, how do you guys feel about it?

    I don’t really want to know how many wins and loses I have, it becomes too competitive also, I just want to enjoy it without feeling like I am being constantly tested and recorded.

    I will say I enjoy the commendation feature tho, personally I think thats enough.

    I know no one else can see our PvP performance but yeah.
    I kind of just wish it wasn't there at all, it's a permanent mark on my character.. It's kind of .. annoying.

    I'll also add that PvP is extreamly gear based and often you are outmatched if you que in with randoms.
    Another problem I have with it is this, I need to win to earn my PvP equipment so get my wins so forth but there are plenty of players out there who already have some of there PvP lvl 50 gear and there just dominating everyone.

    I feel discouraged by the record placed on my character especially knowing I may need to lose many more times before I can get my gear and start wining more often.
    The players who are wining all the time now tho just continue to get more powerful while everyone else just rakes up an ugly score.

    I don't normally care if I win or lose it doesn't bother me but when there is a record there in your face it kind of makes you care about it.
    I'd rather not care or feel like everything ia a competition when all I'm trying to do is have fun, rank up and earn points.

    The score makes it feel like a competition and random que'd PVP should not be treated as ranked matches.

    How about this instead of how it is now.
    .How about in set matches it keeps record of wins/loses but in random que matches it doesn't keep record.
    That way those who are just trying to improve there ranks in pvp can do so without worrying about it effecting there profile and just have fun, while those who are really competitive can compete in the set team matches.

    Random matches become normal without applying wins/loses "unranked match"
    and Set teams become "Ranked Matches"

    Right now people are abusing the random matches and queuing in with 3 people anyway so it's only fair that this type of match isn't competitive and doesn't keep record.

    Update: 27-12-2013

    Quote Originally Posted by WiseWolfHolo View Post
    I would prefer if it just said victories on it. Although allowing to see how many matches total you played to victories is a form of win/loss it is a bother to me as well because as you said you have no real control over the team you get dealt.
    Or this, I would be perfectly happy if instead of showing how many games you've won out of a total amount played it instead only showed your win total.
    THIS I would really enjoy alot more, I would feel encouraged to try and earn more wins while at the same time won't feel bad about losing because it won't be (IN MY FACE).

    Right now the score displayed feels like an annoying child pointing and laughing at you saying haha you lost.
    Dose this make me want to keep playing PVP? No not really.

    When it comes to the MMORPG world of Final Fantasy I just want to enter and play without having the added stress of weather or not I'll have another win or loss on my profile.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 12-27-2013 at 09:23 PM.

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    try not looking at it?
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    I haven't PvP'd yet, but I like being able to see W/L and I think you should be able to view other players W/L either via a leader-board or by examine.
    I'd be fine with it if it was 100% in my control or 100% my performance that is relied on but the fact is I have to pray that my team members are good players and can win or ultimately the game is still lost.

    If it was one player VS one player I'd lose a whole lot less often so it's kind of BS to have it there as my performance when it's not even my performance alone it's a team activity.

    I don't have a PVP team to play with so I am forced to play with randoms to do my PVP, half the time the groups are bad.
    It would be even worse if others could see it, you could Que in with randoms and get in unlucky groups all day and people would just think your a bad player because you have lots of loses.


    Commendations are the one and only thing that should be seen by others and recorded.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 12-27-2013 at 10:04 AM.

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    Well, first thing I noticed was that you started 11 sentences with I's. That's pretty impressive.

    In any case, to be on topic. No, it doesn't bother me. It's PvP you aren't going to have 100% win streak.
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Yeah wow hahah they do all start with I, thats alot of I's.. XD lol
    Yep well it's not so bad if you have a team that wins often but when you have no control over who your teamed up with it's kind of off putting to lose more regularly than you win in random groups.

    How about this instead of how it is now.
    .How about in set matches it keeps record of wins/loses but in random que matches it doesn't keep record.
    That way those who are just trying to improve there ranks in pvp can do so without worrying about it effecting there profile and just have fun, while those who are really competitive can compete in the set team matches.

    Random matches become normal without applying wins/loses "unranked match"
    and Set teams become "Ranked Matches"
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    Last edited by Vandark; 12-27-2013 at 10:33 AM.

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    I'm completely in favor of W/L and K/D ratios being recorded, and for them to be publicly displayed in PvP games.

    For one it calms down people who thinks losing is a bad thing and helps them overcome the trauma of losing. It also teaches them to keep moving forward with their mistakes and their accomplishments.

    Because if the PvP game is any good and decently balanced/ranked you'll see the stats of even the best players hovering around the 50/50 mark. That's just how it is, sometimes you win, others you lose, sometimes your K/D ratio is 80/20 only to have a lolstreak and end up with 40/60 soon after.

    Sometimes you get a good team and others you get a bad team. And most of the times you are as much a part of the fails and wins as the rest of the team, even if you only want to accept your part in the wins.

    And most importantly, if lucky it will teach the player neither of the stats matters as long as they are actually having fun playing with/against others.


    PS > That said I seriously doubt XIV's PvP is balanced or properly ranked, so for that all I can say is wait until the game gets there and play other PvP games (like Smite) in the mean time.1
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    I don't care about PvP at all, so not me.
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    Player o3o's Avatar
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    Get over it. Nobody else can see it. Its just a way of keeping your pvp history.
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    For your own viewing? Yes. For public viewing ? No. Unless they make withdraw from pvp matches = 1 hour lock out.
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    I would have preferred it if it was something like WoW where you have to create a team first and recorded your stats that way. Albeit, I have a 91% win rate, I still dislike seeing a few of those losses coming from disconnects.
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