New Jobs off current Classes!

[Zedine]

First of all this is just a "what if" thread. Basically I want to see how creative the community is by asking, what new jobs do you think can be added with the current existing classes? For example we currently have 1 which is Arcanist that can be Healer and DD as Scholar or Summoner. We mostly expect bard to become a Hybrid and Ranger to be added to Archer, but what about the rest of the classes?

What goes hand in hand with Marauder, Gladiator, Pugilist, Lancer, Thaumaturge, and Conjurer? Kudos if you can make an opposite role like SMN<-> SCH


I'll start us off with a new Job

Time Knight

which is based off of Gladiator, which will also be a Tank/support Hybrid

It's Cross Class Abilities are from Thaumaturge and Arcanist Dealing with heavy time related non elemental damage spells and defensive abilities. I added a small description for why they are added and will go in depth to the New Job abilities.

lvl 42 lethargy slow+heavy (time related)
lvl 30 Manaward null 30% of HP in magic dmg (tanking)
lvl 26 swift cast no cast time (time related)
lvl 15 Scathe no element dmg
lvl 8 Surecast no interrupt

lvl 1 Ruin no element dmg
lvl 6 AetherFlow Restores 20% max mp (for tanking)
lvl 8 Energy Drain no element dmg 50% mp drain(for tanking)
lvl 12 Virus debuff(for tabnking)
lvl 34 Eye for an Eye 20% chance of 10% dmg reduction (For Tanking)

Now these are the Main Job abilities.

lvl 30 Mana Shield
It is a self buff that is always active unless used again. Mitigates 30% of dmg to MP
While lowering Damage dealt by 20% and reducing spell costs by 50% If your MP reaches 0 Mana shield becomes inactive for 30 seconds or until your MP is full and you gain a Refresh Effect.

Example if you would be dealt 1000 point of damage, you would take 700 to HP and 300 to MP

lvl 35 Haste
Increases Skill Speed and Spell Speed and auto attack speed.

Same as the spell many enemies use.

lvl 40 Quick Blade
Delivers an attack with potency of 200.
Combo off Riot Blade only
(cannot be used otherwise, but is off global cool down)
Increase MP and Enmity

lvl 45 Reflect
Returns 10% of Damage Received
Can reflect up to 50% of maximum MP
Duration 30 seconds

(example if you have 2000 MP can only reflect up to 1,000 damage then buff wears off, can only reflect up to 10% of damage received at a time, you can take 1 hit of 10,000 and reflect 1,000 instantly, or take 10 hits of 1,000 and return 100 damage on each hit)

lvl 50 Absorb
Absorbs incoming damage and converts to MP
Duration 5 Seconds

(Works like hollowed ground but instead of taking no damage for 10 second you take no damage for 5 seconds and converts the damage to MP)

The way this tank will play out will be to maximize MP utilization. He doesn't have as much straight damage reduction so your play style needs to be in a way to always have MP as if you have no MP you lose Manashield. Or to maximize your abilities to quickly recover MP to regain Manashield.

Adding his main Enmity Combo to be off global cool down will make it feel like he has better control over time. Even though his abilities deal less damage the faster attacks will even that out.

He will still have access to all gladiator abilities, but will need to rely on his magic abilities to keep up his MP to receive the 30% Damage mitigation.

Let me know what you think!

[Enkidoh]

lvl 35 Haste
Increases Skill Speed and Spell Speed and auto attack speed.

Although I commend you for trying to think outside of the box, Yoshi-P's comments in the past regarding Haste technically prevent this Job from ever being a possibility - I can't remember where I saw it, but back during the Beta Yoshi stated that Haste will never be a player-useable spell, because he thinks it would be too game breaking.

Although I don't necessarily agree with him, I can understand where he's coming from - such a buff would superpower players and just making everyone attacking like a chocobo on rocket fuel. And the rest of your spells/abilities just don't fit with a class that comes off GLA - GLA is a tank based around mitigation, they're not set up to be a spell-slinging pseudo RDM - this Job just comes across as a wannabe PLD with a few ACN spells.

It's generally accepted DRK is going to be the new Job for GLA, as it goes hand in hand with PLD (PLD tank/DRK DD). Why make another tank role for the class when players are screaming out to allow a DD role for it?

[Kuwagami]

Although I don't necessarily agree with him

think about a GL3 monk with haste and cry

It's generally accepted DRK is going to be the new Job for GLA, as it goes hand in hand with PLD (PLD tank/DRK DD). Why make another tank role for the class when players are screaming out to allow a DD role for it?

I remember seeing stated that the jobs would never need other weapons that the class they come from. And DRK should (I'm not narrowminded but well, they SHOULD) swing a claymore.

[Zedine]

It's generally accepted DRK is going to be the new Job for GLA, as it goes hand in hand with PLD (PLD tank/DRK DD). Why make another tank role for the class when players are screaming out to allow a DD role for it?

I don't see this at all, half the abilities generate enmity and the other half reduce damage received. DRK seems like a high reward high risk class, goes better off with Warrior or Lancer than it would with Gladiator. Plus this is just an idea thread. The main reason i made the new class a tank is because GLA is pretty much a tank. Hence why i said kudos if you can make an opposite class.

[indira]

Although I commend you for trying to think outside of the box, Yoshi-P's comments in the past regarding Haste technically prevent this Job from ever being a possibility - I can't remember where I saw it, but back during the Beta Yoshi stated that Haste will never be a player-useable spell, because he thinks it would be too game breaking.

we already have haste called spell speed & skill speed.
guess he broke the game already.

[EvokerKeii]

My predictions:

Additional Jobs
Marauder->Dark Knight
Gladiator->Red Mage
Archer->Ranger
Conjurer->Geomancer?
Thaumaturge->Geomancer? (one or the other)
Pugilist->Dancer
Lancer->?

New Classes/Jobs
Rogue->Thief/Ninja
Gunslinger->Corsair/???
???->Beastmaster/Bluemage

[Eidolon]

There's somethign about Lancer to me that screams "Samurai." A lot of our 'thrusts' look more like swordslashes/something a samurai would do (look at Full thrust and imagine it with a Samurai Sword.)

[Zedine]

My predictions:

Additional Jobs
Marauder->Dark Knight
Gladiator->Red Mage
Archer->Ranger
Conjurer->Geomancer?
Thaumaturge->Geomancer? (one or the other)
Pugilist->Dancer
Lancer->?

New Classes/Jobs
Rogue->Thief/Ninja
Gunslinger->Corsair/???
???->Beastmaster/Bluemage

I do see GLA leading to RDm thats why i made Time Knight a new Job that plays like the the old school melee RDM and has some refresh MP abilities like FF11 buts its well new :P like Bard is here compared to other FF games. I was hoping for more in depth details though :P

[Kuwagami]

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sorry but I'll have to break some thoughts before we get too much non-sense with the game's way of doing :
Redmages can't come from gald because of the sword+shield. Red mages fit better a fencer class (SE announced the fencer back in days btw)
same for geomancer, it often comes from fencer, though it would fit perfectly the hippy yay way of conjurers

The dark knight will probably swing a claymore, so unless marauders become suddenly able to swing these as well, it's unlikely to happen.

finally, beastmaster (whips) and blue mage (either staff or sabers) can't fit the same class either, and it's sad because they would go so perfectly together.

The others are good guesses I think

There's somethign about Lancer to me that screams "Samurai." A lot of our 'thrusts' look more like swordslashes/something a samurai would do (look at Full thrust and imagine it with a Samurai Sword.)

as said before, katanas can't replace the spears :/

[Eidolon]

as said before, katanas can't replace the spears :/

Actually, some Samurai used spears as a part of their martial art. Such an art such as 'bojutsu' would be possible for a Samurai, if Square Enix chose that path.

Furthermore, I do not think it right to discredit it due to the difference of handgrip from Samura Sword vs. Samurai Spear. I think Square Enix could easily change the style of the weapon's grip/etc with a little bit of programming (Though no garuntee on that.)