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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvokerKeii View Post
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    sorry but I'll have to break some thoughts before we get too much non-sense with the game's way of doing :
    Redmages can't come from gald because of the sword+shield. Red mages fit better a fencer class (SE announced the fencer back in days btw)
    same for geomancer, it often comes from fencer, though it would fit perfectly the hippy yay way of conjurers

    The dark knight will probably swing a claymore, so unless marauders become suddenly able to swing these as well, it's unlikely to happen.

    finally, beastmaster (whips) and blue mage (either staff or sabers) can't fit the same class either, and it's sad because they would go so perfectly together.

    The others are good guesses I think

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    There's somethign about Lancer to me that screams "Samurai." A lot of our 'thrusts' look more like swordslashes/something a samurai would do (look at Full thrust and imagine it with a Samurai Sword.)
    as said before, katanas can't replace the spears :/
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    as said before, katanas can't replace the spears :/
    Actually, some Samurai used spears as a part of their martial art. Such an art such as 'bojutsu' would be possible for a Samurai, if Square Enix chose that path.

    Furthermore, I do not think it right to discredit it due to the difference of handgrip from Samura Sword vs. Samurai Spear. I think Square Enix could easily change the style of the weapon's grip/etc with a little bit of programming (Though no garuntee on that.)
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    Van Dark
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    What ever job they add I'm sure they'll do it wrong like they somehow manage to do everything else wrong these days.
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    There's somethign about Lancer to me that screams "Samurai." A lot of our 'thrusts' look more like swordslashes/something a samurai would do (look at Full thrust and imagine it with a Samurai Sword.)
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    Jera Teiwaz
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    Weaver Lv 50
    I think it would be systematic and fair (and add a lot of variety) if each class had an offshoot job based on each of the three roles, Healer, DPS, and Tank.

    They're on the right track with ACN's jobs not being the same role twice. Add a Tank role based on ACN (maybe Time Knight, for the OP's amusement) and we have one class that can completely and fairly split into each role depending on the player's preference. Time Knight based off ACN would need a pet to go with it, however.....
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    Eshi Sote
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    My predictions...

    Marauder 30 | Thaumaturge 15 : Dark Knight
    Gladiator 30 | Lancer 15 : Samurai
    Archer 30 | Musketeer 15 : Ranger
    Conjuror 30 | Thaumaturge 15 : Red Mage
    Thaumaturge 30 | Arcanist 15 : Time Mage
    Lancer 30 | Gladiator 15 : Templar (Tank, Spear + Shield)
    Pugilist 30 | Rogue/Flayer 15 : Dancer or Berserker
    Rogue 30 | Pugilist 15 : Theif
    Rogue 30 | Flayer 15 : Ninja
    Musketeer 30 | Flayer 15 : Corsair
    Musketeer 30 | Thaumaturge 15 : Gun Mage
    Flayer 30 | Lancer 15 : Beastmaster
    Flayer 30 | Rogue 15 : Puppetmaster
    Mystic 30 | Conjuror 15 : Green Mage
    Mystic 30 | All Classes 15 : Blue Mage

    New Classes

    Musketeer (Pistols)
    Rogue (Dual Daggers)
    Mystic (Staves)
    Flayer (Whips)
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    Zedine Zafir
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    My predictions...

    Marauder 30 | Thaumaturge 15 : Dark Knight
    Gladiator 30 | Lancer 15 : Samurai
    Archer 30 | Musketeer 15 : Ranger
    Conjuror 30 | Thaumaturge 15 : Red Mage
    Thaumaturge 30 | Arcanist 15 : Time Mage
    Lancer 30 | Gladiator 15 : Templar (Tank, Spear + Shield)
    Pugilist 30 | Rogue/Flayer 15 : Dancer or Berserker
    Rogue 30 | Pugilist 15 : Theif
    Rogue 30 | Flayer 15 : Ninja
    Musketeer 30 | Flayer 15 : Corsair
    Musketeer 30 | Thaumaturge 15 : Gun Mage
    Flayer 30 | Lancer 15 : Beastmaster
    Flayer 30 | Rogue 15 : Puppetmaster
    Mystic 30 | Conjuror 15 : Green Mage
    Mystic 30 | All Classes 15 : Blue Mage

    New Classes

    Musketeer (Pistols)
    Rogue (Dual Daggers)
    Mystic (Staves)
    Flayer (Whips)
    I don't see the point of Mystic if CNJ and BLM can both use staffs, maybe im missing something. Can you elaborate? Also GLA has use of Daggers which i always found odd... maybe it will have a thief like job due to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedine View Post
    I don't see the point of Mystic if CNJ and BLM can both use staffs, maybe im missing something. Can you elaborate? Also GLA has use of Daggers which i always found odd... maybe it will have a thief like job due to it.
    Weapon type has little to do with abilities. The need for another Staff class is so they can use new abilities from 1 to 50. After all, Paladins can use daggers.

    Mystic will be a healer from the start like Conjuror.
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys View Post
    Weapon type has little to do with abilities. The need for another Staff class is so they can use new abilities from 1 to 50. After all, Paladins can use daggers.

    Mystic will be a healer from the start like Conjuror.
    Yeah that's what I don't get if its a healer like CNJ and uses the same weapons why a new class and not just make the jobs off from CNJ? Since you didnt state any abilities it seemed like an extra CNJ

    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    Support isn't a role in this game. Giving Gladiator another Tank Job is just going to cause headaches.
    Its role is Tanking, with supporting abilities, hence the term Hybrid, and it's not in the game yet but Yoshi said it will be. And how will two tanking classe cause headaches? I see more customization on a role, Tanking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    sorry but I'll have to break some thoughts before we get too much non-sense with the game's way of doing :
    Redmages can't come from gald because of the sword+shield. Red mages fit better a fencer class (SE announced the fencer back in days btw)
    in FF1 and FFXI RDM could use swords and shields. Also daggers and shields, much Like GLD now. But the way i see the game is that every new Job will bring a new class.

    example RDM and Fencer, thief and Rogue, Dark Knight and berserker maybe. Who knows. The things is this is a new game, and based with what they did with classes and jobs, like archer going to bard, then anything is possible. So i'm trying to see what ideas you guys have, what you can come up with, not what you can shoot down.
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    Last edited by Zedine; 12-27-2013 at 11:04 AM.
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    Eshi Sote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedine View Post
    Yeah that's what I don't get if its a healer like CNJ and uses the same weapons why a new class and not just make the jobs off from CNJ? Since you didnt state any abilities it seemed like an extra CNJ
    Because, would 6 jobs using CURE be as interesting? No. A new class that gets a whole new line of heals. Heal over time heals primarily would be Mystics role. Maybe a new type of buff, they could easily get creative with it.

    All classes will have two jobs only, as stated by Yoshi pre release.

    Edit - Not to mention both Conjuror and Thaumaturge both use two handed staves.
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