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  1. #81
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Archona View Post
    Its true that anyone who has done Putricide is familiar with the 'pass the plague' mechanic, and everything offered in FFXIV can be found somewhere in a raid encounter in WoW. But then again, not everyone has played WoW and if they did, perhaps they weren't hardcore enough to see those fights. I do think that Square does a good job with their game mechanics, and new players do have an excellent lesson plan if they complete every dungeon/guildhest in sequence before moving onto the trials/raids. The difficulty progression is very steady, much moreso than WoW, where the difficulty sometimes varied heavily between encounters.

    And no theres nothing 'new' in Turn 5, you can dissect the fight down to WoW mechanics if you wanted to.
    :-\

    I tried to do Guildhests the other day. No one follows the mechanics anyway. >.> They just brute force their way through. The NPC is yelling at you, "NO NO NO DO THIS" and people are just like, "herp derp, pew pew pew" and they win. I'm not sure anyone learns anything of value in those, tbh.
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  2. #82
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    Shirai's Avatar
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    I have to disagree with only that particular point : doing ADS in T1 DO preapare you for the bases of the ADS in T2, aka silencing high voltage, avoiding the rays...
    Yet those are basics which you should have already accustomed yourself with before even going into coil.
    While silencing is not one such mechanic on many things outside of Coil. (Pre 2.1 Chimera comes to mind. I haven't fought him after yet) dodging is taught even at lower level.
    (See red lines, step out)

    The T1 ADS fight does not prepare you for anything other than those two mechanics which are pretty much the easiest parts of the entire fight.
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    Felis catus

  3. #83
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    No problem with the lazy players method. However it would be hilarious if they ninja patched it to go super nova. That would give me a good chuckle
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  4. #84
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    Gurpsmeister's Avatar
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    Mayumi Shiro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Have you done this? Its not as easy as people make it out to be. It takes 4xs as long as a normal run, And if a haler screws up or runs out of MP its a wipe.

    Besides its a nice way or people who can't communicate to get this turn down.
    It is as easy as people make it out to be all you have to do is LOL heal thru it. And what you said, it's a nice way for people who can't comunicate to get the turn down!? Sorry, if you can't communicate and coordinate in a raid you don't deserve to get it down.
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  5. #85
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    snowybell's Avatar
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    Princess Snowybell
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    No problem with the lazy players method. However it would be hilarious if they ninja patched it to go super nova. That would give me a good chuckle
    Lol if that really happens...

    Prepare for massive forum rage in 5...4...3...
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  6. #86
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    Shirai's Avatar
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowybell View Post
    Lol if that really happens...

    Prepare for massive forum rage in 5...4...3...
    If that happens, please send someone over to pick me up from the floor.
    Anyone that does not expect this to be fixed deserves to be laughed at by, well, pretty much the entire planet.
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    Felis catus

  7. #87
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    Regis's Avatar
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    Regis Trahein
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    lol the only problem I would have with it is that people who can't coordinate simple mechanics in turn 2 are now getting access to turn 4 to screw up the people on that one.
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  8. #88
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    O'nali Nevik
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    No problem with the lazy players method. However it would be hilarious if they ninja patched it to go super nova. That would give me a good chuckle
    I'm laughing already, everyone would be like "what happened!?" ...everyone of course would be thinking it's the healers fault, and so they would try again, but wipe again and immediately start raging on healers...lol...
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  9. #89
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    Azalea Cindersong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regis View Post
    lol the only problem I would have with it is that people who can't coordinate simple mechanics in turn 2 are now getting access to turn 4 to screw up the people on that one.
    The reasons that people wipe on turn 4 can be boiled down to 3 things:
    1. Tanks do not get aggro/keep aggro. Healers get chewed up. (Tank problem)
    2. Things don't die fast enough. Group gets overwhelmed. (DPS problem)
    3. Tanks died. (Healer problem)

    Don't try to blame it on mechanics.
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  10. #90
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    Mayin's Avatar
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    Mayin Avantari
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    This thread again !
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