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  1. #31
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    If people can't do turn 2 legit in one shot after some practice, they are bad. Better off without them. We do it legit and and clear 1-4 in 40 mins or less every monday night with almost no effort. Still working on turn 5.

    To your point though, yeah I think it's broke, they need to fix it so people can't use the cheat strategy. The enrage should be an instant wipe mechanic with no chance of healing through it.

    Rot Strat is pretty easy, just number 4 people 1-5.

    1
    2
    3
    4
    5

    and have them stand in an arc like

    1-----------------5
    ---2----3----4

    The ST melee being the variable.

    If a tank get's the rot, have the melee pick it up and take it to 5 before it expires. Then 5 passes it to 4 then 4 passes it to 3, then 2, then 1.

    If 3 Get's rot they pass to 2, then 1, then 5, then 4.

    If 1 get's rot they pass to 5, 4, 3, 2.

    Go right to get rid of pacman and gravity wells.
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    Last edited by Ryios; 12-27-2013 at 10:54 AM.

  2. #32
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    Azran Hayat
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    Quote Originally Posted by ufufu View Post
    But ADS is so easy anyway. I don't understand why people want to do this.
    You should be embarrassed by your logic and thinking skills then, but I am sure you are just being egotistical, on top of it all you played Miqo'te by choice.. my god man
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  3. #33
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post

    Go right to get rid of pacman and gravity wells.
    And then get the star fire and die due to lag and being a melee (tank here) The least damage I can take is 1 branch. No time to avoid more than that, even at max tank range. And i usually take 2/3 branches and just die like a noob for not living in NA. Thanks a lot for these punitive AoEs again, Titan wasn't enough..

    No seriously, the pacman is the easiest way to go, even if it's still hard to do. Yeah, Coil is hard, even the T2 that a bunch of elitist people call "so easy the cheap people should just die'.

    /rant off
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    You should be embarrassed by your logic and thinking skills then, but I am sure you are just being egotistical, on top of it all you played Miqo'te by choice.. my god man
    Nothing to do with the conversation, but so what if they are a Miqo'te by choice?
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  5. #35
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    Him... guess it depends on where you live, but for us going right is the way to go. Dodging the firestorm is easy, never get hit by that and I'm a tank. Our melee never get's hit either. We have a 3 ranged 1 melee comp though.

    But I seriously hope they patch this so people have to do it legit, sorry for the laggers, but the enrage strat is a cheap trick.
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  6. #36
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    Who cares, those who have no other choice than to rely on this won't make it past t4 or 5 anyway.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    But I seriously hope they patch this so people have to do it legit, sorry for the laggers, but the enrage strat is a cheap trick.
    Who are you to claim what is legit and what isn't ? Stop being a stubborn elitist and accept that there is no "cheap trick", just a challenging way and an easier way...

    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    Who cares, those who have no other choice than to rely on this won't make it past t4 or 5 anyway.
    That's not even half true.. My static is full of EU people, and we use the enrage mode as we can't deal with the lags, and yet we're close to clear T4.. just need the mages to calm down on the soldiers to help with enmity while they are invulnerable to my own attacks..
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 12-27-2013 at 11:19 AM.

  8. #38
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    For a practiced static there's no reason not to be smooth at turn 2. For a pickup PUG then it's often just less painful to run ADS down to the rage timer than deal with organising rotations and etc. As a bard, turn 2 ADS is the most annoying fight in the game, so it doesn't bother me at all if the easy mode is chosen.
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  9. #39
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyssyd View Post
    It's a hard enrage, and since the inception of such mechanics, they have been designed to be nigh impossible to pass. This enrage though, in all of it's inept glory, doesn't follow suit, making it not an enrage at all, but a free pass instead. This in itself makes doing the fight that way "cheap" because you are bypassing the mechanics of the normal fight.

    Do the fight however you want, but don't try to claim that it isn't cheap. That's one thing that it definitely is.
    It is not a hard enrage. *sigh*

    A hard enrage immediately one-shots you. This is, by definition, a soft enrage. If they intended for you to wipe immediately, it would kill you in one hit. There are examples of hard enrages in this game, so it's not like SE is unfamiliar with how to make one. This is not a hard enrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zPanda View Post
    Couldn't put it any better. I never really understood these posts. Why do you care how others play lol??
    Because, for whatever reason, people in this game are nosy as all hell. >.< They really, truly care about what other people do in the game. You should see the threads in the crafting forums about "cheating" by having someone HQ you items for triple-turn in leves. -_-
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    Last edited by LiadansWhisper; 12-27-2013 at 11:27 AM.

  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    Rot Strat is pretty easy, just number 4 people 1-5.
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