1 click Turn 2 strat broken?

[AdvancedWind]

inb4 4 healer party!

{Looking for party} {Turn 2} {Enrage} 1{Paladin} 4{Scholar} 3{White Mage}

[LiadansWhisper]

It disables everything else. So perhaps the best wording would have been to disable all but one, or a majority of, the mechanics. To me, that's actually no different then having a healer stand in a tree to disable the add part of AK first boss.. both are cheap. They are both things I've done.. but they are still cheap.

I've thought about it for a while, and I'm quite certain that the disabling of other mechanics is deliberate. The only way to survive at that point is to stack up and AoE heal (and even then, without the correct comp and gear, you're probably going to wipe), and if there were other mechanics (well, other than Rot, I suppose), that wouldn't be possible.

[NeonC]

Why wouldn't it? You would just have to stack and move as a team.

[LiadansWhisper]

Why wouldn't it? You would just have to stack and move as a team.

Because the stacking debuff put on the tank is a frontal cone (and so are several of his attacks, if I am not mistaken). Which would mean the entire group would get it on them. Add to that, any time you are moving, you can't really heal. Missing a Medica murders people, at least in my experience.

[GilbertLapine]

So.. Time was taken to learn the coils fights.. turn 2 being the most interesting one to get 6 people to work together on (lol) and then one person posts a video of 1 clicking ADS and now EVERYONE wants to do it.

My question is this, and I know people probably won't like it.. is that "working as intended" too? cos it makes turn 2 as lol-worthy as t3

Why do you care what other people do? How is this diminishing your gameplay?

[jmdatcs]

What is with all this 3-4 healer stuff? We tried it last time, partly for shits and giggles, partly because we had to pug one and didn't feel like explaining their role for rot, but we just did it with our normal party comp.

Now that we did it once, we probably won't again, unless we have a few people wanting bathroom/smoke/drink breaks at the right time. There isn't really much reason to sit there with your thumb up your ass for several minutes.

[Sunarie]

I've thought about it for a while, and I'm quite certain that the disabling of other mechanics is deliberate. The only way to survive at that point is to stack up and AoE heal (and even then, without the correct comp and gear, you're probably going to wipe), and if there were other mechanics (well, other than Rot, I suppose), that wouldn't be possible.

I think it is.. well it kind of has to be deliberate. I think it more has to do with how ADS, and other bosses do abilities though. They don't seem capable of casting two things at once (I've seen a boss interrupt one of it's skills with another skill even). So in order for it to cast the pulse damage (which I think was meant to eventually wipe the party), it can't cast anything else or the pulses wouldn't be anywhere near frequent enough to wipe the party.

What I don't think is deliberate, is people waiting and then just healing through the damage. I highly suspect SE never imagined people would do this. Which is why I wouldn't at all be surprised if it got changed. Similar to them saying Dark Devices was working as intended, and then turning around and nerfing it. Or them saying Warriors were fine, and people just hadn't unlocked the potential, but then turning around and buffing them, saying they didn't imagine people would just take two Paladins to Coil instead.

Again, I'm not calling people bads or anything. They can clear content however they want, and I've ever said my FC has used this strategy. I still think it's cheap though. Yes, it requires the healers to be on the ball, but that's it. It doesn't at all require teamwork. The only comp requirement, or gear requirement, is a white mage, and another healer. Beyond that you can actually get people well under what would normally be needed to clear Coil for most groups. It's reducing an otherwise very team oriented fight to "stand in this single spot and dps while healers use only aoe 1-2 heals to get through the entire fight".

[Arkista]

If SE is going to Nerf this fight, Then SE needs to Nerf T3. Force all of us to fight every single mob, If we don't get to the bottom within 10 mins flood the chamber and kill everyone. Seems fair to me.

[wildgalax]

a fight where you can literally close your eyes and still succeed takes a lot of skill ok...

[Lexia]

It funny how people are upset about this, if you don't want to do that method then don't do it. Do it however you want to play the game SE does not need to fix every little thing cause it not the way you play or the "proper" way