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    Player Archona's Avatar
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    Vamperica Garisk
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    If Square wishes to they could easily change the enrage to an autokill, or make any kind of adjustment to the fight to fix it. Seeing as how we've seen multiple patches since this has been discovered its safe to say that this isn't on Square's urgent exploit list like the other exploits that were patched in the past (Twintania, Titan, Chimera, Hydra).

    Til then, players are free to complete this fight any way they want. Confident experienced groups do not want to waste 7 minutes waiting for clicks to count down, whereas new groups have the option to 3heal it for easy loot, so to each their own.
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    Mericle Nightshadow
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 33
    ok whats the difference between doing turn 2 enrage mode or SPEED RUNNING wp? people speed run WP to be lazy and to not have to kill mobs that give gil and spiritbond. thats cheap enrage lets u pass a boss easier to get gear. if people couldnt pass turn 2 to get the gear noone would take them into turn 4.
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    Airikay's Avatar
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    Unless you have a WHM and SCH that are iLvl 80+, you need 3 healers for it
    Its mainly all on the WHM and how they time the heals and if they have enough mana. Even easier if you have 2 WHM and alternate heals.
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    Shirai N'yankoro
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    Sargatanas
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    Fisher Lv 60
    I admit I haven't read the entire thread, but this is my stance about it all;

    It's another strategy, perhaps easier, perhaps harder but for a lot of groups it works.
    As long as SE doesn't say "You will be banned for using this strategy" people will keep using this strategy.
    Which I don't see happening, I do think this will be "fixed" in the future, but I also expect SE to make the Allagan rot mechanic a bit more forgiving to go along with that.
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    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    all i get from the op is that someone took a really long time to figure out t2 and is now mad that someone else found another way to do it more efficiently
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    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    all i get from the op is that someone took a really long time to figure out t2 and is now mad that someone else found another way to do it more efficiently
    I do not think it means what you think it means.
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    Holo Wisewolf
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 80
    I say buff the pulse damage to make it a "gear" check mechanic at least. My group has never and will never do this "strat"(if you can even call it that) because overall I find it to be broken.
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    Wild Galax
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    i think the reason se hasnt done anything about this is cause this isnt the last boss of coil so they just let it pass, if it was the last boss their stance would probably be different. I believe if people cant get past t2 as it was designed then they have little to no chance at t5. Im actually curious how many people completed t5 who havnt done t2 as it was intended.

    At the end it doesnt matter cause you guys are just cheating yourselves with this strategy, so goodluck in further content.
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    Maximum Panda
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by wildgalax View Post
    i think the reason se hasnt done anything about this is cause this isnt the last boss of coil so they just let it pass, if it was the last boss their stance would probably be different. I believe if people cant get past t2 as it was designed then they have little to no chance at t5. Im actually curious how many people completed t5 who havnt done t2 as it was intended.

    At the end it doesnt matter cause you guys are just cheating yourselves with this strategy, so goodluck in further content.
    These comments don't make a lot of sense really. T5 is harder than T2, but it is also completely *different* as well. What if T2 wasn't a part of Coil at all and just some separate dungeon that not too many people did? I'm sure people who are beating T5 would have still learned it just fine if T2 didn't exist at all. I would challenge anyone to explain what "skills" you get from T2 help you beating harder stuff like T5 or Titan Extreme, etc. ? I've encountered *nothing* in T5 that makes me think "Wow, i'm glad I learned how to deal with rot in T2" lol.

    Did anything in you learned in T1 help you to beat T2 ? Did anything you learned in T2 help you beat T4? From my viewpoint, the answer is a big no. All these encounters are totally different.

    To continue on this point more - did beating Ifrit HM really help you beat Garuda HM ? Did beating Garuda HM really help you beat Titan HM ?
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    Last edited by zPanda; 12-27-2013 at 08:43 PM.

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    Wild Galax
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by zPanda View Post
    These comments don't make a lot of sense really. T5 is harder than T2, but it is also completely *different* as well. What if T2 wasn't a part of Coil at all and just some separate dungeon that not too many people did? I'm sure people who are beating T5 would have still learned .

    Did anything in you learned in T1 help you to beat T2 ? Did anything you learned in T2 help you beat T4? From my viewpoint, the answer is a big no. All these encounters are totally different.
    ?
    I have to totally disagree, from personal experience every dungeon has helped me improve my game, there is a lot of learning gained even if you dont realise it. So im just curious how many people that have only done this strategy have succeeded in t5, just trying to pick up on a correlation.
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