1 click Turn 2 strat broken?

[KenzieLynch]

I just dislike Turn 2.

Not because of difficulty, or because it's rare to get a PUG where everyone can pass rot (which it is), but just because I dislike the Turn. If I can get through it quickly and painlessly I will, and I don't care if anyone tells me I 'shouldn't' be doing it this way. To those people I just say: "How does it affect you, exactly?"

[SarcasmMisser]

I don't really care if people cheapen the fight but clearly a lot of people have invested a lot in this strat and the qq threads would be fun to read if they broke it.

Besides this is the sort of thing se has a history of fixing.

[Thorauku]

Wait, what? What strat? I never knew this kind of thing existed.

Kidding aside, it doesn't matter really, other people prefer this because it's easier for them not to dodge Allagan Rot while just YOLO-ing everything in this tactic.

[Arkista]

My static does it the non enrage way. But I went with a PUG today and they did the enrage and I have to say that it seems harder.

[NintenPyjak64]

My static does it the non enrage way. But I went with a PUG today and they did the enrage and I have to say that it seems harder.

Unless you have a WHM and SCH that are iLvl 80+, you need 3 healers for it

[DenzelTaru]

My static does it the non enrage way. But I went with a PUG today and they did the enrage and I have to say that it seems harder.

i went with a PUG this week and they did it this way and that + all the party finders i see saying "1 click strat" is why i made this post.. i mean this PUG even tried to being 3 healers because they had 1 tank.. i said if you really want an extra job bring an extra DPS, if the healers (me being one of them) arent competent enough to heal through his enrage then they need a little more practise and probably shouldnt be healing in coil

Its mainly all on the WHM and how they time the heals and if they have enough mana. Even easier if you have 2 WHM and alternate heals.

I don't see what makes a WHM better at this? with a SCHs succor you get 3 things happening:

1- initial heal, around 350 at iLv 80
2- shield for the same amount, making that heal worth 700
3- Crits, which you see alot of, for 560ish which then shields for 1120 for a maximum of 1680 negated

i wouldn't discourage people from taking SCHs now in this already laughable strat

[LiadansWhisper]

I don't see what makes a WHM better at this?

White Mage is a throughput healer. Scholar is a mitigation healer. Both are very important, and Scholar is very powerful except - and this is important - in the realm of filling the healthbars backup. As a mitigation healer, Scholar excels at preventing the healthbars from going down, but the role of the White Mage is to fill the bars back up. There is a throughput limit that every Scholar has (especially in terms of AoE healing) because half of their healing is tied to shields. Their only real source of "burst" is Lustrate - which makes them fabulous tank healers but not exactly phenomenal raid healers in situations of extreme high damage. Consider, too, the high chost of Succor in relation to the actual healing it does (not looking at the shielding - that's very important, but again, it doesn't fill the healthbars back up).

with a SCHs succor you get 3 things happening:

1- initial heal, around 350 at iLv 80

Meanwhile ADS is hitting you for ~1500.

2- shield for the same amount, making that heal worth 700

Which means the next hit is for ~1150, of which only 350 is filled back up.

3- Crits, which you see alot of, for 560ish which then shields for 1120 for a maximum of 1680 negated

This only matters for the spell Adloquiem. When Succor crits, the shield is not doubled.

i wouldn't discourage people from taking SCHs now in this already laughable strat

The incoming damage is such that it really does work out better if you take 2-3 White Mages. 1 Scholar probably won't kill you, but unless all healers are geared to the teeth, it's going to be touch and go because the Scholar just doesn't have the burst to keep up (though with two good White Mages, a Scholar could very much help with smoothing out the damage pattern).

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I say buff the pulse damage to make it a "gear" check mechanic at least. My group has never and will never do this "strat"(if you can even call it that) because overall I find it to be broken.

It's absolutely a gear check mechanic - for your healers, at any rate, and to an extent, for everyone else.

[Kal-El]

Why do people actually care?

*My group is 1337. We don't want this because others aren't as 1337*

T2 is easy whichever way you do it. Honestly don't care how people want to do it.

[zPanda]

Why do people actually care?

*My group is 1337. We don't want this because others aren't as 1337*

T2 is easy whichever way you do it. Honestly don't care how people want to do it.

Couldn't put it any better. I never really understood these posts. Why do you care how others play lol??

Also, are we to assume that all the people arguing against this strategy never once did something like do a WP speed run ?? I would argue that zoning mobs to an imaginary line that eventually puts up an invisible barrier a few seconds after you pull the boss and magically locking those other mobs out is more against the intended game design then the T2 enrage method.

[EvokerKeii]

I don't care if people exploit it and I'm not crusading to get it fixed, but I don't agree with it being a legitimate strategy either.
Part of the boss mechanic is the timer. By circumventing the timer you are circumventing the mechanic the way it was intended to be done. It's an exploit plain and simple.
But again, I don't care what people do. I won't judge them for doing it.