1 click Turn 2 strat broken?

[Sunarie]

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I'm not a pissed off person by any means, and I don't really care how other people down bosses (I even said above we had used the strategy). I'm not going to pretend that disabling all of a bosses abilities, however you do it, and thus taking away any semblance of difficulty from the fight isn't cheap though. Kudos to the group that found out that strategy, they're the ones that pushed the game further (or fell across it by happenstance).. everyone else just followed suit. That takes no thought or skill.

Waiting for the enrage on ADS is the same thing to me as the healer jumping into the tree for the first boss in AK so no one had to deal with adds. I would venture a guess that SE is going to "fix" the enrage so that it actually kills the party at some point. Previous fixes point to SE wanting people to actually go through mechanics, and also only really came after a particular "exploit" (I know people are going to argue about what an exploit is, which is why it's in quotations) became popular did it ever get fixed.

[Dyssyd]

This method isn't "noob" nor "cheap". People who say that are being elitist douches that can't congratulate people doing things their own way. Who cares about how others play ? It doesn't mean they become suddely able to down twintania as easily. Let them act as they want, they did not break the game.. Or if they did, the enraged solo tank/heal Caduceus is also game breaking and the greatest tanking performance I've seen so far becomes a bannable offense. How rude

It's a hard enrage, and since the inception of such mechanics, they have been designed to be nigh impossible to pass. This enrage though, in all of it's inept glory, doesn't follow suit, making it not an enrage at all, but a free pass instead. This in itself makes doing the fight that way "cheap" because you are bypassing the mechanics of the normal fight.

Do the fight however you want, but don't try to claim that it isn't cheap. That's one thing that it definitely is.

[Kuwagami]

It's a hard enrage, and since the inception of such mechanics, they have been designed to be nigh impossible to pass.

Not arguing but with 6 dps il 80+, a PLD il 80+ and a good sholar, the solo tank/heal enrage for caduceus just becomes a matter of habits. seriously, just have to be careful with feeding before the split, paralyse both snakes a little longer than they should by triggering the tails, and then popping hallowed ground as soon as it reaches 7 stacks. With 6 heavily geared dps, you pass it without that much difficulties, or so I've been told. My pal still needs some levels befor eI can try that strat though ;D

[LiadansWhisper]

It's a hard enrage, and since the inception of such mechanics, they have been designed to be nigh impossible to pass. This enrage though, in all of it's inept glory, doesn't follow suit, making it not an enrage at all, but a free pass instead. This in itself makes doing the fight that way "cheap" because you are bypassing the mechanics of the normal fight.

Do the fight however you want, but don't try to claim that it isn't cheap. That's one thing that it definitely is.

It is not a hard enrage. *sigh*

A hard enrage immediately one-shots you. This is, by definition, a soft enrage. If they intended for you to wipe immediately, it would kill you in one hit. There are examples of hard enrages in this game, so it's not like SE is unfamiliar with how to make one. This is not a hard enrage.

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Couldn't put it any better. I never really understood these posts. Why do you care how others play lol??

Because, for whatever reason, people in this game are nosy as all hell. >.< They really, truly care about what other people do in the game. You should see the threads in the crafting forums about "cheating" by having someone HQ you items for triple-turn in leves. -_-

[Ri_ri]

I just want the loot.

ADS is the worst boss I've ever seen in a MMORPG. CPU nostalgia my buttocks, it's just being lazy with the design.

[iRanOverYourMom]

I just want the loot.

ADS is the worst boss I've ever seen in a MMORPG. CPU nostalgia my buttocks, it's just being lazy with the design.

how is a game that requires you to have co ordination with fellow players "bad design"?

[Ri_ri]

how is a game that requires you to have co ordination with fellow players "bad design"?

I am talking about its aesthetics. You can make a fight complex like heroic Ragnaros, if it doesn't looks cool, it's worthless to me.

It's a hard enrage, and since the inception of such mechanics, they have been designed to be nigh impossible to pass. This enrage though, in all of it's inept glory, doesn't follow suit, making it not an enrage at all, but a free pass instead. This in itself makes doing the fight that way "cheap" because you are bypassing the mechanics of the normal fight.

Do the fight however you want, but don't try to claim that it isn't cheap. That's one thing that it definitely is.

Hard enrages deal over 11000 damage in one blow. From Hellfire to Earthen Fury. This is a soft enrage. You will wipe if it goes long enough.
People got enough gear to finish the fight before they wipe. Not sure what's so cheap about it.

It's not like touching 1, waiting a few seconds then touching 3 marks the line between a good and a bad player.

[Xenobius]

Enrage method works wonders for people that are "lucky" enough to have borderline unplayable positioning lag regardless of whether they do or do not use the VPN services. Like, you know, a number of people across the freaking Atlantic from where the "EU" servers are. If I'll ever have to choose between interesting fight mechanics that randomly kill several players on my group regardless of how good they are and a dumb workaround that can be used under any network conditions I'll go for the latter any day.

[Dyssyd]

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Hard enrages deal over 11000 damage in one blow. From Hellfire to Earthen Fury. This is a soft enrage. You will wipe if it goes long enough.
People got enough gear to finish the fight before they wipe. Not sure what's so cheap about it.

It's not like touching 1, waiting a few seconds then touching 3 marks the line between a good and a bad player.

You're totally right! Removing easily handled fight mechanics that require a little bit of communication to bypass totally isn't cheap!

Oh wait, doing something to make anything with a slight amount of difficulty into a braindead easy snorefest is the very definition of cheap in video games.

I don't care if people do it, just don't pretend it isn't cheap. Like I said, that's the only thing it definitely is.

[Ri_ri]

You're totally right! Removing easily handled fight mechanics that require a little bit of communication to bypass totally isn't cheap!

Oh wait, doing something to make anything with a slight amount of difficulty into a braindead easy snorefest is the very definition of cheap in video games.

I don't care if people do it, just don't pretend it isn't cheap. Like I said, that's the only thing it definitely is.

Ok then, it's cheap.

People getting offended by "easy handled mechanics" being skipped, is just...