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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonC View Post
    Why wouldn't it? You would just have to stack and move as a team.
    Because the stacking debuff put on the tank is a frontal cone (and so are several of his attacks, if I am not mistaken). Which would mean the entire group would get it on them. Add to that, any time you are moving, you can't really heal. Missing a Medica murders people, at least in my experience.
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    Malcolm Quill
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelTaru View Post
    So.. Time was taken to learn the coils fights.. turn 2 being the most interesting one to get 6 people to work together on (lol) and then one person posts a video of 1 clicking ADS and now EVERYONE wants to do it.

    My question is this, and I know people probably won't like it.. is that "working as intended" too? cos it makes turn 2 as lol-worthy as t3
    Why do you care what other people do? How is this diminishing your gameplay?
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by GilbertLapine View Post
    Why do you care what other people do? How is this diminishing your gameplay?
    It does diminish my gameplay. When a dps is unable to make it to our static any given week we must instead use a pug. Due to the proliferation of this strategy finding pugs skilled enough to actually pass rot and do the mechanics is becoming increasingly difficult. That directly effects my gameplay and makes me very concerned about what other people do.
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    It does diminish my gameplay. When a dps is unable to make it to our static any given week we must instead use a pug. Due to the proliferation of this strategy finding pugs skilled enough to actually pass rot and do the mechanics is becoming increasingly difficult. That directly effects my gameplay and makes me very concerned about what other people do.
    Then when you HAVE TO use a pug, just do the enrage way. It's just about passing it anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Then when you HAVE TO use a pug, just do the enrage way. It's just about passing it anyway
    We refuse to do it that way because it is lazy. So as I said it does indeed diminish my gameplay and it leaves me very concerned about what other people do. Everyone in this thread argues this is a viable strategy and people should let others do what they want. Here I stand up and say we don't want to do it that way and it's hindering my ability to use pugs. Now you pop up and argue I should just cave and do it this way instead of the way we want? The unbelievable amount of hypocrisy in this thread is staggering.
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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
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    The problem is you're expecting PUG DPS to be good. Most good DPS are already claimed by statics, and most PUGing it aren't up to par. If you can't take time to teach people, or wait long enough to find a good PUG, the problem is more with you, honestly.

    And for all you know, all you're getting are people new to T2, geared or not. A LOT of people say they have experience when they don't since many groups refuse to take new people.

    At the very least, you need to explain your strat to every PUG you grab since not everyone does every fight the same way (don't know how many different ways I've attempted to clear T4 with, for example)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    We refuse to do it that way because it is lazy.
    So you're restraining your own gameplay by your own choices. If they can't do it, teach them, but it will take time. They know how to do an other way and YOU ask them to do otherwise. You're the one wrong if you can't understand that they won't suddenly be good in the old school way (no disrespect intended.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    So as I said it does indeed diminish my gameplay and it leaves me very concerned about what other people do. Everyone in this thread argues this is a viable strategy and people should let others do what they want.Here I stand up and say we don't want to do it that way and it's hindering my ability to use pugs. Now you pop up and argue I should just cave and do it this way instead of the way we want? The unbelievable amount of hypocrisy in this thread is staggering.
    You're the one being hypocrit when you say it's hindering your PUG possibilities. Without that method, you wouldn't have any more possibilities to PUG because these "non skilled" people wouldn't be able to clear it anyway. The method hasn't changed anything, except that people now get more chance to gear in il90 and thus get some more damage/health to achieve the old school way.
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    Roscoe Ludovico
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    What is with all this 3-4 healer stuff? We tried it last time, partly for shits and giggles, partly because we had to pug one and didn't feel like explaining their role for rot, but we just did it with our normal party comp.

    Now that we did it once, we probably won't again, unless we have a few people wanting bathroom/smoke/drink breaks at the right time. There isn't really much reason to sit there with your thumb up your ass for several minutes.
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    Arkista Valentine
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    If SE is going to Nerf this fight, Then SE needs to Nerf T3. Force all of us to fight every single mob, If we don't get to the bottom within 10 mins flood the chamber and kill everyone. Seems fair to me.
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    Wild Galax
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    a fight where you can literally close your eyes and still succeed takes a lot of skill ok...
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