Housing Prices Adjustments (Dec. 26)

[DakenBrunel]

I suppose they could mean your FC demonstrated that pricing was not unreasonable, or maybe that you broke a boycott a few posters seemed to have called for.

We didn't plan to boycott to begin with, so if that's the suggestion. As far as I'm concerned, the high prices that square enix wanted to implement, I agreed with, but not to the extent they announced.

[Miburo]

I dunno, man. You have to be pretty derpy to not consider the possibility that they might lower the prices due to the large amount of completely justifiable outrage about the housing situation. And you say you agreed with the prices, but not to the extent they announced? So did you agree with them or not? If you did, then you paid what you thought your house was worth and got what you wanted. If you didn't agree with the prices then you shouldn't have bought a non-refundable house.

Seriously though, pretty derpy to buy a house so early if you cared at all about wasting millions of gil.

[Nanaya]

Early adopters get the shaft, this is kind of a fact of life. It's an unfortunate one, but undeniable.

Yoshida can say all he wants about finality, much like he can and did say all he wanted about how a handful of fresh 50s can afford a house with the cash they made getting to 50. Things change, and claims are entirely invalidated a second later.

Housing cannot be allowed to flop, because he hyped it up so much. There is a pathetic amount of buyers for said houses, less than a handful on most Legacy servers, so they had to make a decision. Either stay the course with this horrendous price gouging, so for the next couple months you have entire housing instances wasted with only a few FCs populating them, or lower the pricing more than they originally stated to try and coax more naive players with a little bit too much pocket change to throw their money away.

I can't really pity you for getting burned purchasing the land at these exorbitant prices, because common sense should have made you realize Yoshida's original plan had less of a chance to remain afloat than the Titanic. Even more so when so little FCs purchased land. I do wish you the best of luck in getting reimbursed, but I can't be anything but cynical about that outcome either, considering the absurd Legacy prices were a really transparent way to siphon the inflated amount of gil these servers have out of circulation, and you guys kind of played into his hand hook, line, and sinker.

[Ifervan]

Until all servers are equal i can't be bothered with this "feature".

Glad they taking a step in the right direction.

EQUALITY FOR ALL SERVERS!

[ZohnoReecho]

In few weeks people will complain that some other FC took the plot they had their eyes on.

[Huxer]

There are something like 30 lots in each development, 3 developments, 5 instances(wards) of each development... so what about 400-500 houses available? I think our server is currently using 2 of them. I'm sure another 498 free companies are likely to buy up the other plots... Yea should create a ton of scarcity and drive the market forward to create a run on housing...any...day...now.

tldr; get real.

[Felis]

There are something like 30 lots in each development, 3 developments, 5 instances(wards) of each development... so what about 400-500 houses available? I think our server is currently using 2 of them. I'm sure another 498 free companies are likely to buy up the other plots... Yea should create a ton of scarcity and drive the market forward to create a run on housing...any...day...now.

tldr; get real.

How many big FC are on the servers who want a big house for their guild? How many L size plots are in each neighbourhood?
At least on the legacy servers, there are enough FC who would have bought all L size plots right after the patch if the prizes were like on the non-legacy servers.

[Fatestorm]

How many big FC are on the servers who want a big house for their guild? How many L size plots are in each neighbourhood?
At least on the legacy servers, there are enough FC who would have bought all L size plots right after the patch if the prizes were like on the non-legacy servers.

Everyone has a cutoff for what they consider to be a "big FC", but I did an experiment last week (12/17) to prove this isn't true, at least on Balmung server. I'll post it again:

I am doing a thought experiment based upon the LARGE housing plots: the most expensive ones.

Square-Enix has launched its housing with FIVE 'wards' of each of the THREE different housing zones. Furthermore, I believe that there are 3 large house lots in each of the zones. (Don't cite me on that, there may be more or less in Uldah and Gridania, but I know there are 3 in Limsa Lominsa.)

Now. There are, checking the Lodestone right now, precisely 11 Free Companies on Balmung Server with more than 150 registered members. Let's assume that all 11 decide that they want a LARGE house for their guildhall.

There are literally enough large houses, in the Mist housing area alone, to accommodate all 11 free companies with FOUR empty large house lots left over. Not to mention the leftover THIRTY in the Goblet and Lavender Beds zones.


Let's do it another way. There are 23 companies on Balmung with >100 registered members. There are 45 large housing lots in all wards of all three zones. Literally half of the available large houses are left over, with all of Balmung's large free companies accommodated.


Which leads me to ask...

...who is it they want living in these houses, again?

[ArkhamNative]

The idea about housing was that 2.1 would provide enough extra gil to afford one in a few months. (I don't agree with that approach, but that's what SE said.) And it hasn't been a few months yet. Those who did get medium and large houses seem to have gotten the gil by taking much of it from other players (market board, primal runs).

It is odd that there are only 3 large plots to 7 medium in each ward, and even more odd that there are 20 smalls. Does SE really think they'll sell housing in that ratio? Are there really that many 10-member FCs that will be happy with such limited space?

Also, right now, there's no official info about the actual benefits of housing. Are there buffs, features, or content? Are any of these unique to the large size? The reason I ask is that the high prices may seem more justified if these things were announced.

[MortalWare]

Still punishing those who supported the game in 1.0. Thanks for your loyalty.