Duty Roulette - low level - same dungeons???

[am0n]

Hello all,

Currently in the Duty Roulette system, the lower level dungeons are being selected more often. However, for patch 2.15 we'll be looking into making system changes that will affect this. While the main focus will remain on prioritizing selection of content that is lacking players, we'd like to make it easier to do content of a wider level spread.

How about the highest level instance the group can do? It's already "Random" in the sense that you have no idea who you are being grouped with and what that highest level dungeon will be, but at least that way you are likely to give people the best option for their level and the group. As an example, if you have a level 32, a 41 and two 50s, running Brayflox (I think that's the 32) is better for all of them than Sastasha... better loot options/exp for the non-50s and a wider swath of available skills for the 50s so they don't have to drop half of their action bar.

[Viridiana]

better loot options/exp for the non-50s and a wider swath of available skills for the 50s so they don't have to drop half of their action bar.

Yes, please!

I wound up stopping Duty Roulette entirely on my MNK around Stone Vigil because I realized I wasn't learning anything about playing MNK along the way, just how to play a PGL with no cross-class. . .

[Zfz]

While the main focus will remain on prioritizing selection of content that is lacking players, we'd like to make it easier to do content of a wider level spread.

(1) Content that already have someone waiting and is lacking players.

versus

(2) Content that are played less in general, even if nobody is queued for it.

Please make it (1), not (2).

The reason is that when I'm leveling, I want to update my gear as well, and it is impossible to do that if I keep getting lower level content. For that reason, I'll be designating content, not using the Roulette. Now if the Roulette doesn't prioritize my content and let me wait there for half an hour, while other level 50s are getting Sastasha in 5 minutes, it seems to be missing the point of the Roulette altogether.

[Energy2k8]

Hello all,

Currently in the Duty Roulette system, the lower level dungeons are being selected more often. However, for patch 2.15 we'll be looking into making system changes that will affect this. While the main focus will remain on prioritizing selection of content that is lacking players, we'd like to make it easier to do content of a wider level spread.

Can you also please explain why 8 times out of 10 i get sastasha when running low level duty roulette and no other low level dungeon. Apparently more players are affected by this.

[Sylari]

Can you also please explain why 8 times out of 10 i get sastasha when running low level duty roulette and no other low level dungeon. Apparently more players are affected by this.

At any given time. Everyone in queue is able to enter Sastasha and Copperbell, while only a percentage of those people are going to be able to do any other dungeon.

To compound that dungeon selection seems to be random, so even if you do get a higher level group you've still got a good chance of doing a sub 20 dungeon.

It'd be really nice if the dungeon system biased itself toward level appropriate dungeons so you'd only run Sastasha if the person in the group was actually 15 or 16 and that a group of all 30s would be more liable to get Haukke or Brayflox and a group of all 50s would be more liable to get Darkhold or Vale.

[Chryzo]

Carnate quote removed... stupid 1k char limit

I disagree, you should not prioritize contents. If your DF has made a group, you should roll with what the group can do and since you don't synch mob XP, I'd advise you to go with actually doing the opposite and prioritizing the highest content a DF formed group can do AND sycnhing mob XP to what they would get in the equivalent high level DG

I am 45+, I had once a Hawkke, the rest is Halatali or lower. It is not efficient for a lvl 35+ to get into a 20- dungeon. Thus it actually removes the utility of DF. And am sorry, starting today when i ended up in a 36+ group and got Satsasha... i left... 50*600XP / mobs + 10k for 3 boss + 130k bonus XP will not compensate for 50*3k + 50 k for 3 bosses. Counting food bonus... it even gets worse. And high level dungeon take as long as low level anyway.

[Estellios]

I'm not sure how the system works, but ideally it should pick the highest level dungeon available to everyone matched together if all of them queued for roulette.

For example, if 2 level 50s, a level 45, and a level 38 player are matched in a queue, it should set them up for Cutter's Cry. This way the Level 38 and 45 players can get the most xp possible in their roulette attempt. No reason that group of players should get Sastasha just because no one is in there.

[Highlanderx]

I'm not sure how the system works, but ideally it should pick the highest level dungeon available to everyone matched together if all of them queued for roulette.

For example, if 2 level 50s, a level 45, and a level 38 player are matched in a queue, it should set them up for Cutter's Cry. This way the Level 38 and 45 players can get the most xp possible in their roulette attempt. No reason that group of players should get Sastasha just because no one is in there.

The way they said it would work. is when you select DR, it sends you to the 1st group waiting for a dungeon that needs your role. There should never be a case where everybody got into the dungeon because of DR.

That said low level DR should be split into to groups, 1. Dungeons level 15-30, 2. Dungeons level 32-49. Getting stuck in a pre-level 30 dungeon with a job equipped is a waste and you can't revert to your base class either. You lose so many skills.

[Hippy_Pickle]

The way they said it would work. is when you select DR, it sends you to the 1st group waiting for a dungeon that needs your role. There should never be a case where everybody got into the dungeon because of DR.

That's certainly not how it does work however, last night I did my daily low level roulette and yet again got Sastasha. I asked the group if anyone had actually queued for Sastasha and what their levels were, lowest member was level 35 and everyone had gone in via roulette. So it comes back to roulette not just putting players 'where required' but sending players to 'empty' instances.

So basically there are hardly any players running Sastasha through needing it and the instance servers are sat doing nothing and the roulette system is sending players there because the server/instance 'needs' players!

[Raestloz]

That's certainly not how it does work however, *snip*

I think they deliberately did that to balance out server loads and have people play less-played content. IIRC each dungeon has its own set of servers, so while it'd be a good idea to have higher level people pick on their own size, it'd not help the phenomena currently in place where high level players simply don't want to bother with low level areas, leaving those servers eating electricity for no good reason