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    Wanderer's palace[ BUG, RMT]

    The bug exist in Wanderer's palace, and bug monster is the bronze beetle which has very little HP.
    THen,I tell you the details:
    First,one beetle in Wanderer's palace can be killed by any players within 3 skills ,it just needs 3 seconds.And there are 20 beetles in all ,that means it just take those gold farmers about 70 seconds to kill all the beetles. Every party member can get 50 Gil after killed one beetle.
    Then all party members quit the dungeon ,so the dungeon renew,then they can kill 20 beetles again! Of course.they use illicit software to do this again and again! So, now you know that one little party can get about 160000 (20X50X4X40) Gil one hour. These BOTS (gold farmer's character) are working all day (24hours)! So,one party of bots can get more than 3000000 Gil one day!
    The bots' feature :LV50 ,no company,and in Wanderer's palace all day !You can see how many bots are doing this on each sever!
    At last,I just want to tell you that the bug has been used to do RMT activity!
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    Ok,it looks like that SE doesn't care. Now I tell you the other numbers.A computer with CPU e3 or i7 can log in 12 ID,that means a computer like this can get more than 10000000 Gil one day,which worth about 160 dollars。By the way ,one person who do RMT activity has more than 10 computers !So one day, 1600 dollars. If you don't fix it ...
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    Last edited by lapos; 12-26-2013 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapos View Post
    Ok,it looks like that SE doesn't care. Now I tell you the other numbers.
    SE is unlikely to give an official response to this on the forums. If there is an exploit they are unlikely to give any response to it at all until they have fixed it (as acknowledging the problem without fixing it means more people are likely to exploit.) That's just how things are done in the gaming industry.

    Repeatedly posting on the same topic is NOT going to increase the chance of a fix. Doing so may, however, get you suspended or banned from the forums as it is against the rules.

    Forum Rules: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...la=1&tag=forum

    PS: No, I am not reporting you for violating forum rules as I'm sure that is not your intent. It is in your own interest to avoid making anymore posts on this issue no matter how concerned you are.
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    You simply can not reach all the beetles as an undergeared RMT. I'd be surprised if they even survived long enough to even reach the first group. There are far more efficient ways to make gil than having to gear up to be able to speed run WP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    You simply can not reach all the beetles as an undergeared RMT. I'd be surprised if they even survived long enough to even reach the first group. There are far more efficient ways to make gil than having to gear up to be able to speed run WP.
    Bots can teleport to the coordinates automatically with illicit software which you can not imagine.
    Their behavior is into the dungeon, teleport to coordinates where beetles are , with 70 seconds to kill all the beetles get Gil, exit dungeon and start a new one,over and over again.
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    Last edited by lapos; 12-27-2013 at 03:50 AM.

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    If you take into consideration every possible method of people exploiting a game, and then try to counter every single one of those methods, what you're left with is a game that is neither enjoyable nor marketable. The beetles which spawn at the chests in WP were not meant to be farmed, nor were they placed with the fear that they would be exploited. These mobs were made easy to kill for a reason, and I'll not pretend I know what they developers are thinking with everything they do, but I'd imagine that if these mobs were not meant to be farmed, they'd be more challenging to kill.

    I'm not trying to start a debate, I'm simply pointing out that if you try to "fix" every exploit in the game or design the game to prevent any possible exploitation, you'll end up with a game that no one wants to play. I, for one, like to go back and grab these chests after a speed run because frankly, trying to find a non speed run group who will take the time to grab the chests and kill the bugs is just pointless now. Talking from experience, if you're not level fifty with full Darklight and a Zenith relic, the only way you're getting a Wanderer's Palace run is if you go with friends or use the duty finder. If Square Enix were to buff the mobs that spawn on these chests, it would only further encourage people to skip them, just as taking away the reward for killing them and as it sits, several craft-able items require materials found in these chests.

    Keep in mind that no matter how many exploits you fix, those guys you mentioned who dedicate the time to write the third party programs to allow themselves to exploit games will always look for a new way to exploit the game. I'm not saying steps shouldn't be taken to prevent it, but you have to consider the effects these steps will have on the actual players who don't exploit.

    *Edit
    I don't think this would be classified as a bug, though bugs are involved, lol. These mobs function as intended with no game related issue other than the fact that people who use third party programs are able to exploit them through the use of those programs. Without the use of such programs however, these mobs are not so easily farmed and thus, would not be a concern at all.
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    Last edited by Lyrro; 12-27-2013 at 04:39 AM.

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    "with illicit software which you can not imagine"

    I don't know about you but I can imagine some pretty illicit software *wink wink*
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    You need to submit this in-game via the Cheating option through the Support Desk. You have to be able to provide names though. Otherwise this is just all conjecture and speculation. (not that I don't believe this couldn't be done though)
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    Greetings lapos,

    I am sorry to hear you are having trouble with Wanderer's palace. This matter has already been brought to our attention and is currently under investigation by development. I recommend checking Here or Here for any updates in the future!

    - Furlamseere
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