The Actual truth about the housing system.. please read..

[ArkhamNative]

The truth behind the FC housing system, is for legacy characters to get together and spend their gil to buy a house.

If that was the plan then it's a big fail.

So far between 0 and 3(?) houses have been sold per legacy world. FCs who bought them are buying mostly small and medium, and they are getting most of their gil from the market wards (i.e. by selling to other players for their gil). So yeah, some of that is money from v1, but most of it comes from what was paid out by ARR.

All the posts I've seen say legacy players started with 300k-500k gil, and that ARR provides only about 100k while doing the main story & leveling your first class. People went in expecting houses to cost a few hundred thousand each (per FC member) and instead found it will cost around 4 million per FC member on legacy worlds. So even if an FC is all legacy, most still can't afford housing.

And on top of that, Yoshi-P announces prices will be slashed by up to 90% in a couple of months. It's like, would you like to pay 50,000 for a car now, cash up front only, knowing that in six weeks the prices drop to 10,000? Even the rich would wait in a situation like that.

[OSUBuckeye4]

It's more like, "would you like to pay 50,000 for a paperweight right now, cash up front only, knowing that in six weeks the prices drop to 10,000?"

Housing is useless (no buffs, no advantages to owning), attaching multi-million gil price tags to it is stupid.


At least a car provides a utility in that it will get you from one place to another, and a nice car will do it in style.

Housing in ARR provides no utility, it is pointless.



This is no different from the devs releasing a special minion and charging 250,000,000 gil for it. All the minion does is follow you around, it provides no actual in game usefuless.

That's not to say that the devs should get rid of anything that is strictly vanity (minions/titles). Those things are still fun, and there can be a value attached to them, and they can be a decent minor gold sink to balance the economy... you just can't bank on them to sell at astronomically high prices, because they won't. Would someone who has 300 million gil sitting around pay a million for a minion? Maybe. Will they spend 75% of their bankroll on a minion? Of course not. Especailly not if the devs come out a week after the minion goes up for sale and say, "oh, and in 6 weeks the price will be 50% of what it is right now... and we might drop it much lower than that if necessary".



I don't know if the devs understand this or not. No one who has 250,000,000 gil sitting around is going to spend it on something that will provide them zero utility.

Give people an incentive (a small, non-game breaking one), and then they (at least a few of them, the Bill Gates types) will empty their bank account.


EDIT (since I'm at my post quota of 1 for the day):

I understand that down the road there will be things these FC houses can do. Right now, they do nothing.

It makes no sense. At least throw players who shell out ridiculously amounts of gil some kind of a bone. Maybe offer them a special piece of furniture if they buy before the New Year that will never be offered again. Or offer them an additional minor buff, or reduced transportion/repair costs.

Something, anything to provide incentive to buy now rather than wait till later.



Finally, the other red flag deturring people from impulse buying is that no one knows if small/medium/large plots are going to have different levels of usefulness. No one wants to spend millions of gil on a small plot, and then find out in 6 weeks that the feature they want (airship port?) is only available to large plots. This is another weird aspect of the housing fiasco. The only difference between the three types is the amount of (currently useless) items that can be put inside of said house. Some clarificaion from the devs would be nice, but, it's possible they don't even know.


I'm really only posting here because I find it fascinating that a game that has done so many things so well, has screwed the pooch so horribly on this aspect. (and because I'm bored because 75% of my office is out for the day)

[Shyen]

It's more like, "would you like to pay 50,000 for a paperweight right now, cash up front only, knowing that in six weeks the prices drop to 10,000?"

Housing is useless (no buffs, no advantages to owning), attaching multi-million gil price tags to it is stupid.

Agreed on the excessive pricetag, but apparently there seems to be a lot in store for the future of the "paperweight". I don't disagree with you, mind you, but to be honest, aside for repair money there is very little to spend on once you hit 50, and if you do a little dungeon rotation everyday you should end up with some pocket money that really have no place to go but sit on a retainer. The game per se does not really need you to hoard gil(like, for example, FFXI did. A merit player had a lot more daily expenses). That is assuming you have no interest in playing the market to amass a fortune.
I guess it all depends on 'how fast' you want to get there and the prices are so outrageous to block people from the vicious circle of
"see new content, buy new content, add checkmark to the 'completed stuff' list, get bored after 3 days from new content"

Imo, it would be fair if they converted the outrageous price into FC seals and add a series of FC quests to obtain it. this way it would cut on people's complaint on how the FC is not truly a shared feature. I believe they can come up with a lot more efficient moneysinks than this

this all said, I will try to get there with my FC cause yes i want the clubhouse I'm thinking in organizing FC fundraising events, like a particular dunegon run day, or treasure hunting parties to devolve the gil to the cause. no big money makers, of course, but just a way to bond and have fun and see it slowly come together.

[Xystic]

I don't know if the devs understand this or not. No one who has 250,000,000 gil sitting around is going to spend it on something that will provide them zero utility.

I don't think you understand that these houses WILL have utilities and they are already guaranteed to have just utilities that FC lots can only provide. The wealthy players have said it countless times, they are just strategically waiting for the prices to go down. There is no rush in buying. Being patient will save millions of gil. Just because they can buy it does not mean they should spend gil recklessly.

[Dreadlockrasta]

I don't think you understand that these houses WILL have utilities and they are already guaranteed to have just utilities that FC lots can only provide. The wealthy players have said it countless times, they are just strategically waiting for the prices to go down. There is no rush in buying. Being patient will save millions of gil. Just because they can buy it does not mean they should spend gil recklessly.

> Almost 2014
>Still believing Yoshi's empty promises
I seriously hope you guys don't do this
"Please look forward to it"

[MrVideogames]

illuminati

[avecha]

I thought the chick who gave the Ul'dah housing quest was a bitch. She was rubbing it in my face i couldn't afford one.

I have been saving for years she goes. Only the elite can afford these. It's not a problem that well off adventurers can afford these houses. Etc

[Teon]

We bought a medium house, we worked hard for it, we came together as a FC to get it. I love it! get over yourselves. Sure there may be lots of opinions on why the prices were so high. One thing i know is fact, I would be glad to see other stuff cost that much if it meant my entire FC working together towards a common goal and having a blast while doing it. Everyone wants everything handed to them on a silver platter. How bout you work hard to get ahead? isnt that what Real Life teaches you? or you just gonna work at McDonalds the rest of your life?

I will skip the part "how exactly are you enjoying that house. Visiting it every day , sitting on a crafted sofa 2 minutes then back ingame grinding back your money? "

Lol no let's go back to my real post..
You have NO idea how hard i will laugh by the day you are kicked from that FC / you are done with them / you want to quit or take a long break waiting better, and noone is gonna give you back your money spent on that useless crap of medium house haha Oh don't tell me you're the leader now.. in case it's the opposite, i hope you're working hard to cover the entire house price, by the day ppl is kicked /leaving your FC and ask you back all their money spent on housing hahaha

Face it, you can answer me "Nothing like this will never ever happen we are a special bonded FC " (keep illuding yourself ) , but 99.9% of the FC out there will face this reality ,
once the guy who put 2-3 mil gil on housing today will ask back money haha

I would have loved to ask you if you kicked everyone not contributing to the purchase haha, doesn't matter anymore

This content is a fail, face it.

The truth behind the FC housing system, is for legacy characters to get together and spend their gil to buy a house.

Yoshida purposely ruined the economy on all server, so that their is no possible way for one to make money to the point of over 500K or 1MIL.

He crashed the housing marker so that legacy players would see a decline in housing price, and that the market is deflated to the point where everything is affordable, so that way legacy players will get into the mentality of, well I have all this money, and the FC house price is a lot less from where it was when it was introduced, their is only a few large housing to buy so let me grab one so I can be the first. And in the mean time they will still hold onto some of their gil to play the game comfortable and still above norm players.

So once all the legacy gil has been eradicated on over priced FC house, yoshida will have a clean market economy state to work with, and then will introduce new items and recipes for everyone to make money on, and then everyone on all markets will have an equal opportunity.

So in-turn Yoshida planned this and people are falling for it. People may think he is stupid and so forth but he has stated that he wants to level out the game economy on all worlds, and then open server app transfer between legacy and new worlds, and other numerous claims revolving around the game economy.

I like your "truth". Mind to explain me why this "truth" is not applied exclusively on legacy servers and non legacy are not having a small plot at 1mil gil top (reducing day by day) , something " an FC of 3 members can afford" as promised by Yoshida?

The actual truth is the title here huh? lol..

I like this "truth" way more ----> Truth

[Axlle10]

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you sir just made me lol. people leave, it happens. and all the money raised was out volunteering so people knew full well they wouldnt get their money back ever. and our guild has quite a few IRL friends at the tops. i may not be but i like the leaders and am quite contempt with helping, i didnt put any gil towards the house but did help with crafting/melding to get us there. So i think your whole little rant was wasted attempt at trying to feel better about yourself because you dont wanna do the same. maybe your not in the right FC if you dont feel that way ^_^ and i will LOL at the day when they release some awesome ass buff that ONLY house holders get access to. not likely, but as likely as me leaving this FC atm.