"Kindness of Strangers" are not kind at all

[BobbinT]

Didn't your parents ever tell you not to accept raises from strangers?

Nope. orphaned since little. lol

There's only an Achievement for the first raise and I think for 20 raises. People who main healers probably cap pretty quickly. Therefore it probably IS the kindness of strangers and not a desire for Achievements that compels people to raise you and any other players they see lying dead.

Well... if you're happen to be passing by the stranger in need for help or heard a shout while there's no one nearby that damsel in distress, then yes: it is a kindness of strangers. It did felt good when I answer those calls. But thank you for that though.

[LiadansWhisper]

Well... I still find this quite odd, why rezzing player while outside the zone?

Because they probably didn't want you to die immediately upon ressing.

Why can't you just be grateful that they were trying to help? Why do you care if you were inside the FATE zone or not? It doesn't do anything to harm you.

[Vactus]

If you were on your SCH then you should be happy you got silver.

We have told you already that there was no malicious intent. Apparently you don't do the FATE often as there are always healers and ranged DPS outside the fate itself to keep from getting one shot.

Stop whining and delete this thread. It's the most useless and whining thread here right now and that's saying a lot for general discussion.

[Nikoshae]

What I find odd, and again I repeat, are the multiple raises outside FATE zone, which I felt 1st time since the history of me doing FATEs, especially Odin/Behemoth ones.

You do realize Raise and Resurrection have long cast times, right? The FATE moves a lot... enough so that by the time the cast time begins it is entirely feasible that they wound up being outside of the area.

Also, I think you continue to miss the points that have been presented here. You get credit for your contributions during a FATE based on how much you participate, regardless of whether or not you were still in the FATE area when it ends, regardless of how often you duck in and out of the FATE, and so on and so forth. You can contribute to the start of a FATE for a bit, go elsewhere, and then fourteen or so minutes later (if no one else bothers with the FATE) you'll gain a reward based on what you did for the FATE.

An achievement that really has no sway on anything in game other than 'lookit my pretty numbers' is not enough motivation for anyone to try to troll anyone, you or otherwise.

You continue to try and make a case that you're the victim here when in reality all you're doing is trashing those who went out of their way to try to bring you back to help down Odin. We continue to try and explain how incorrect you are. You're just not having it. So, we're at an impasse. Good luck to you. I think you'll need it.

[ReiszRie]

As per title, I find an annoying thing happened to me recently.

There was I, while doing things when suddenly I heard shouts of Odin FATE popped. I rushed to the scene and start pounding, and as to be expected, I died. Then there's these healers that keep resurrecting people including me. What I find it really annoying as hell is that they keep rezzed me outside FATE zone, totally resetting my FATE progress. And this happens really alot to me, and as to be expected, I got silver medal at the end of the day, EVEN though I joined it amongst the earliest.

I am quite mad by this turns of event. Not only that these FATEs are so damn annoying to wait, but these healers, whether their intention are pure or just trying to piss off players of getting their gold medals (which I heavily suspect the latter), has made my emotion exploded. Worst of all, I can't even tell which healer did this since there's so many of people during that FATE, and log scrolling like mad, it's quite impossible to tell which.

THIS IS TERRIBLY NOT FUN! The FATE itself are not fun and really punishing, with me still having only 1 Odin mantle, and now? There's now ways for other players to generally piss off others, like this achievement. This is REALLY NOT FAIR!!!

Oh... and almost forgotten: I was in a full party, so usually I do get Gold medal easily from FATEs if in a party, which I checked with other members and they claimed that they have. And last time I got rezzed into outside FATE zone, Odin health was less than 5% and was about to unleash his 1-shot kill.

I don't understand.

If you're in a full party, even if you're raised from outside the FATE zones, the contribution of the party does not get reset.

You're getting Silver because your party isn't generating enough enmity, not because you have been raised, the next time you're dead, kindly just run back from your save point.

[Scamperoo]

And you're missing the point here too.

The reason I made this thread is not because I'm not satisfied getting just a Silver. I did get lots of Silver/bronze on Odin/Behemoth before. I might sulk, but I moved on.



This is why the topic title are there. I'm suspecting achievement being exploited on other's expenses.

But... I do apologize if those healers intention were pure.

As the fate is moving around and in all probability a healer kind enough to raise you would have no idea weather you were currently in or out of the fate zone, just threw you a raise out of the kindness of their heart only to be resented by you. You think they should hang around until Odin/Behemoth moved back into your range again? There is so much going on in these fates seems to me you already got more than your ungratefulness deserves. I suggest everyone avoids raising you just in case they piss you off.

[AiChyan]

As the fate is moving around and in all probability a healer kind enough to raise you would have no idea weather you were currently in or out of the fate zone, just threw you a raise out of the kindness of their heart only to be resented by you. You think they should hang around until Odin/Behemoth moved back into your range again? There is so much going on in these fates seems to me you already got more than your ungratefulness deserves. I suggest everyone avoids raising you just in case they piss you off.

I read all his responses in this thread and if I was on his server I wouldn't even think of raising him ever. Way to be ungrateful & think the worst of other players.

[Itachi]

healers, please don't rez this guy at all next time.

thank you

[Zakalwe]

And you're missing the point here too.

The reason I made this thread is not because I'm not satisfied getting just a Silver. I did get lots of Silver/bronze on Odin/Behemoth before. I might sulk, but I moved on.

What I find odd, and again I repeat, are the multiple raises outside FATE zone, which I felt 1st time since the history of me doing FATEs, especially Odin/Behemoth ones.

This is why the topic title are there. I'm suspecting achievement being exploited on other's expenses. If not for this achievement, I won't even bother making this thread in 1st place.

But... I do apologize if those healers intention were pure.

If you wish to apologize, the best way to do it is to add an edit to your original post, which is a bit of an off-the-rails rant.

[Tanama]

For like the eighteenth time, you do not lose progress if you're outside the FATE zone. Have you not seen people leave FATEs early because they know they've contributed enough to earn a gold medal?