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  1. #21
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    The hyperbole is amusing, but it doesn't change the fact that PvP is an abysmal joke in this game.

    Continue to defend 30 second CC's and the plethora of other glaring issues though, by all means; it's amusing to those of us who have experienced decent PvP in other games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pines View Post
    The hyperbole is amusing, but it doesn't change the fact that PvP is an abysmal joke in this game.

    Continue to defend 30 second CC's and the plethora of other glaring issues though, by all means; it's amusing to those of us who have experienced decent PvP in other games.


    And continue to whine about a 30 second cc when it occurs on BOTH sides of matches and is only used by a couple classes, has diminishing, is easily avoidable ( I watch my position with whm and blm on opposite team- how about you) and easily mitigated with an action that can be obtained by anyone with a few wins or by a number of actions including esuna and leeches. You can also use food buffs and materia to manage sleep. Let me guess- you have 30 second CC’s because your first choice was a dps option so you could scream about CCs being 30 seconds and unfair while pointing at your high dps at the end of a losing match? (continued)
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    Last edited by realistic1; 12-30-2013 at 04:31 AM. Reason: typo

  3. #23
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    (continued from above) Wins are not all about just dps and perhaps purchasing purify first and avoiding those BLM and WHM’s instead of running right at them might do wonders for being a productive part of your team and understanding that sleep is not any more an issue than the advantages of other classes.

    Yes, I am a BLM and those 30 second CC's impact me the same as anyone else.
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  5. #25
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    @realistic1, Not every team has a BLM or WHM, so it isn't on both sides. Purify has a 4 minute cooldown. Healers are often targeted to interrupt and stun casting, so esuna/leeches are more often not an option. All the while, multiple members of your party are out of the fight for nearly a minute. It's not whining if there is a real problem. Back in WoW: Burning Crusade, Sap initially lasted for 1 minute on players. Polymorph lasted for 30 seconds on players. It didn't take too long for it to become a huge issue, and crowd controls were put on short durations for PvP for a good reason. Some team compositions had far too much control.
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    But sleep has the 'potential' to be on both sides. Purify can be shorted to almost half the time with points and most of the healers I see on both sides do remove sleep so esuna and leeches ARE a valid option. If people are getting slept for 30 seconds, it is their play style and choices not the CC that is the issue. In a pug, I have the same chance as you in coming across a whm or blm whether that be an opposing pug player or 3 man premade. As I stated before, I try to avoid putting myself in a position to get sleep cast on me, I suggest the same.
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    The difference being, you are a BLM, so your team will always have it. Sleep and Weight are two of the only status effects that last longer than 12 seconds, and even really call for the reduced cooldown on Purify. You can sit through a few stuns, that have diminishing returns, and live. Then you get to run free for a whole minute immune to stuns. If you get Swiftcast Sleeped, Purify out of it, and get put to sleep again, you're still asleep for 15 seconds. Not to mention the instant cast AoE sleep that BLM can take as a PvP skill. 15 more seconds of sleep, on the enemy group, without sucking up your Swiftcast, and the next sleep is still 15 seconds. Try all you want to defend it, but it doesn't matter if it can be on both sides of the fight, it's still broken. Crowd control abilities that can turn a 4v4 into a 4v1 for nearly a minute should not go unchecked.
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