The REAL item level requirement for extremes (becuz dev where drunk)

[Doctor-]

If you think those minimiun requirement for the extreme primals are remotely accurate you my friend got another thing coming, you will be in for a world of EXTREME - headaches and migraines and endless rotation cycles. The real requirement I would say is around this bracket range.

Garuda Extreme:
Healer ilvl 65+
Tank ilvl 75+
DPS ilvl 77+

Titan Extreme:
Healer ilvl 70+
Tank ilvl 80+
DPS ilvl 75+

Ifrit Extreme:
Healer ilvl 75+
Tank ilvl 83+
DPS ilvl 80+

Ultima Hard: Bonus Round
Healer ilvl 60+
Tank ilvl 70+
DPS ilvl 73+

Further I want to add that even with these new numbers some of the adds have overshot HP pools for the average none premade group.

Garuda: Suparna, Chirada HP is bit excessive, Satin plume has slight high HP
Titan: Egi could use a slight numbers nerf
Ifrit: (need further testing)
Ultima: I know you want us to see the entire fight and all its mechanics but by the twelve that HP pool on ultima is insane. 462,592 FOR THAT ilvl require to do the fight is crazy long if you try to go at it with the minimum.

[WellGramarye]

inb4 onry i91

Also why does Garuda have higher ilv than Titan?

[Waliel]

Better too low than too high.

[Arcaloid]

I always think those ilevel requirements like the minimum system requirements for games.
Yes you can run the game with this kind of hardware, although the fps will be below 10, but you can run it...

[Sepix]

I agree with these numbers if not higher for the Tank on Ifrit. Tank Damage on Ifrit is something worth calling Extreme. Even if the mechanics of the fight aren't that complicated they can easily overwhelm you if everything comes together. Those fire breaths freaking hurt. One breath with 2-3 stacks easily hits you for 5-6k. This is not fun! I definitely felt on the lower end with my lvl 83 iLvl.

[Mags]

Really? I don't get it. Are you saying the ilvl requirements should be higher than suggested?

Because then you are trying to make the "extreme" challenge content not so much, and make it just hard"er" than hard modes.

It's like with the HM dungeons, they have the requirements of 48 (If I am remembering correctly) and drop ilvl 60 gear, same as AK. I remember FC mates coming out of the HM dungoens the first time say how derp easy they were... well, yeah.. you guys are all top geared for coil runs.

I'm gonna set up my own runs, and ask for the minimum ilvl requirement.

"Seeking a minimum ilvl of 48 please"
"I got 90 ilvl /flex"
"No, sorry... you NEED to be at 48, sorry"

[Zfz]

well, yeah.. you guys are all top geared for coil runs.

Well said!

Asking for higher iLv requirement is basically the same line of thought as saying people should be over-geared for content.

[Starkbeaumont]

why the high tank lv on ifrit? does he hit so hard that you really need an additional 140hp over an iLv80 tank? and what's with all those ppl using crafted accessoiries? be it tanks or healers or even DPS?

In general having higher lv DPS will take pressure from tanks and healers, so you might consider rising their requirements.

[Mortechai]

You guys are missing his point entirely. He's saying that the incoming damage and time restraints on the fight(IE have to kill X in Y time or wipe) are such that a party sitting at the exact minimum won't stand a snowballs chance. Take an i48 group into Pharos for example. Good luck on siren in your AF.

[Teon]

What about King moogle? Any other estimation? ( Why people keeps forgetting him? )