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    Kiwikies's Avatar
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    Kiwi Kies
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    Pugilist Lv 28

    Dyslexia and playing in parties,

    This may be long but I feel it needs to be due to the nature.

    My Dad likes to play games, he played WoW, DCUO, SWTOR, GW2 and some others, however he can't read, his parents can't speak or hear so he wasn't able to be taught to read properly as they couldn't pronounce the words and apparently his school life was little help because his teachers just pushed books at him and didn't help me eventually sticking him in classes where the kids weren't paying attention and messing about with that out of the way, I can read, I help him as best I can.

    His first journey into gaming was WoW, he saw me playing and wanted to try it, I read everything to him, but it eventually got tiresome for the both of us. After 3 or so years I eventually just gave him the gist of what happened in the story.

    SWTOR had voice acting and GW2 he wasn't so bothered with the story, with FF however he enjoys it and likes how the story turned out, he's made it to 50 on a paladin able to tank all the story dungeons without my help, I've explained his abilities as he's got them and left him to it, and I've read the cutscenes and story quests to him all the way. He's been able to do most of the none story dungeons, mostly the ones that gave him a quest to do it, he also finish the story mode prior 2.1 dungeons included and tanked them.

    In FF He has little issue finishing quests as most of them are marked out, the odd quests require fates and other things that aren't apparent until you read at which point he asks me for help, he's able to do the quests that have you emote with a /salute or something similar because I've told him that if the quest text has a / he need to type the / and anything connected to it.

    As of 2.1 he's been joining the duty roulette, and trying to collect tokens for his gear he's been completing the daily beast tribes and doing the low level dungeons and the main scenarios however a couple of times, recently and prior 2.1, he's been kicked from dungeons/primals/etc because he's not replied, he understands that people are talking but he doesn't know if they are talking to him/about him.

    Without this sounding like an oxymoron, he has a good memory and If i'm there and he's doing a dungeon for the first time I'll tell him what to do on the bosses and let him go at it, CM for example I told him to pull the first group, tank it then click the lights then move on down to the boss, one at the boss just tank it and the adds. As a sort of general rule I've told him to look at other tanks' health and if they have more than him they are most likely going to tank the boss and he needs to pick up the adds that spawn, I give him a brief explanation on the boss he's going to fight, Tank and spank/ Tank and spank with adds, for more complicated bosses like the last in CM I told him the details,

    But being kicked from a dungeon/group part way through because he's unable to communicate seems harsh, I know that some things are required but is there any way that he could overcome this, some sort of program like Windows speech recognition(doesn't access the game)

    It seems a waste for him to do so much to fight against his dylexia and get punished for it.

    Thanks Yuichi, sorted.

    A good example of this being a bad thing was last night.
    He did a dungeon last night, I don't know the name it's the one with the slime and you have to spawn a bomb by pushing a lever and let the bomb blow up at the slime, My dad knew this but nobody else In the group did, he ended up trying to spawn the bombs and get it to blow the slime, trying to show the group what to do, being unable to explain through text, and eventually he died because the healer ran out of mana and the dps were killing the bombs before they blew up everybody left and so did he.
    I wasn't in, so I couldn't help him and my mother was asleep so he was unable to ask anyone for help. but he knew the key to the fight.
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    Victoria Mccry
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    Archer Lv 50
    Wait before you post any more you can edit your op with everything by passing the limit.
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    Agrias Kirosuu
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    Lancer Lv 50
    well thats bad
    the problem is the community in the server, but they why dont join fc,you and him and maybe fc member will help
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    Wiggly Pinworms
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    Make him a quick macro that explains his situation about reading say its a macro and move on. If you have explained the fights he should be good to go after he hits the macro. Bah bam problem solved!
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    Sir Gazuntai
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    The trouble I see is that some groups do runs differently from others. They may try and explain to him their way and then he goes and does the way he knows. This obviously makes it look like he's just being stupid since the other players don't know his situation, so they kick him.

    Something like Coil could be an issue as he may be asked to feed, for example, and have no idea they're asking him to do anything.

    You could do the macro idea and just have a macro that explains his situation, but if you consider the average age of MMO players and their excessively immature nature (we had kids in my old school who made fun of cancer and death of parents) it won't go well. I have autism and trying to explain it to the majority of teenagers just results in insults.

    There is really only 2 ways I could see this working. You will either have to be there while he plays at all times, or you can both join an FC and explain the situation. Maybe try find an FC that uses Teamspeak so he can communicate with them without typing. This will make dungeons so much easier for him and the group. Obviously finding an FC that's willing to do this could be hard as not everyone is patient (especially in an MMO setting) but there will be FC like that out there.

    Only other option is for him to learn to read. However, as that's probably not an option you'll probably have to go with the other options. I see a lot of people being kicked because they don't speak the same language and no one can communicate, so it turns into a mess.

    It's bound to be really hard, but good luck to you guys. Unfortunately a game can't change how it works based on a minority. It's the same reason they don't change the size of the average doorframe so that really tall people don't have to duck. So, my best suggestion would be to find an FC that uses Teamspeak or some other form of voice communication.
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    Moogle: Black Mage ftw.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/129860-So-I-tested-some-BLM-rotations...

    Here's a link to a bunch of rotation and DPS numbers I wrote up to try help BLM see they aren't as weak as they might think.