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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbow View Post
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    I think timing is called "skill". Part of healing in XIV and what differentiates a good healer from a bad one is knowing when the tank is going to be taking a lot of damage. ALL the major boss fights are scripted. You should know when to be ready for Mountain Buster, etc.

    Now if a DD takes a ton of damage it's their own fault but most bosses are pretty predictable.

    You can flame it all you want, Square has designed the game so that an animation takes place before an ability goes off. Ooooh it's .5s instead of instant. Big deal. It's like D&D or pathfinder where you have spells that are considered "standard" "minor" and "free" actions. I would say in this game, there are no free actions only minor. If that is by design then so be it.

    No cast time =/= no effect time.

    People complaining about how this is designed is like going to buy a BMW and then complaining everyday to BMW customer service that there is no Honda engine in your BMW and demanding for them to fix it even though if you wanted a Honda you shouldn't have bought a BMW. (i.e. if you don't like the way the game is designed you don't have to play it)
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    Last edited by Kantide; 12-25-2013 at 12:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantide View Post
    People complaining about how this is designed is like going to buy a BMW and then complaining everyday to BMW customer service that there is no Honda engine in your BMW and demanding for them to fix it even though if you wanted a Honda you shouldn't have bought a BMW. (i.e. if you don't like the way the game is designed you don't have to play it)
    Actually, it's more like buying a BMW and finding out you have a two-stroke minibike engine in it. I mean after all, I'm only expecting my BMW to have the same engine as every other BMW out there, but it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cikala View Post
    Actually, it's more like buying a BMW and finding out you have a two-stroke minibike engine in it. I mean after all, I'm only expecting my BMW to have the same engine as every other BMW out there, but it doesn't.
    No its more like buying a BMW and complain that u actually have to drive it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phai View Post
    No its more like buying a BMW and complain that you actually have to drive it.
    Nope, It's more like buying a BMW and never receiving it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Nope, It's more like buying a BMW and never receiving it!
    U dont recive the skill u use? And u blame game? After the animation delay have been there for over 90 days?

    Couse from ur reply, that what it looks like.

    Adapting is for slackers i asume. Lets all gather, and carry u troug this game, u can have the loot! Game over and ur welcome. Good luck in future games
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phai View Post
    U dont recive the skill u use? And u blame game? After the animation delay have been there for over 90 days?

    Couse from ur reply, that what it looks like.

    Adapting is for slackers i asume. Lets all gather, and carry u troug this game, u can have the loot! Game over and ur welcome. Good luck in future games
    Riiiight, because I should totally have to use my "oh shit" heal-someone-to-full five minute cooldown ability when it's not an emergency.

    *facepalm*

    Ask a WHM what happens when Benediction fails. There is no counter to the heal going off, actually showing up in the combat log as having healed the target for their full health, and then still watching them die a half second later from a piddly hit that should have done nothing. If they don't want this to be an emergency crutch heal, then the cooldown needs to be decreased by a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Riiiight, because I should totally have to use my "oh shit" heal-someone-to-full five minute cooldown ability when it's not an emergency.

    *facepalm*

    Ask a WHM what happens when Benediction fails. If they don't want this to be an emergency crutch heal, then the cooldown needs to be decreased by a lot.
    I never said that.

    All tanks and whm's in my Fc, and other friends dont have this problem!
    First time doing new content, maybe yes, but once we starting to learn the encounter they know just when its needed and it hits.
    I can see that it can be a frustration since tooltip says instant, but have a short animation delay. But Adapting to the encounter and how ur class skills work isent forbidden, it can even make u more focused on the fight ur doing!

    U can see on these forum that when ppl struggle whit an encounter or new content comes out, these issues are getting more highlighted. When ppl have learned the fights, it seems like it calms down!
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    Last edited by Phai; 12-25-2013 at 12:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phai View Post
    U dont recive the skill u use? And u blame game? After the animation delay have been there for over 90 days?

    Couse from ur reply, that what it looks like.

    Adapting is for slackers i asume. Lets all gather, and carry u troug this game, u can have the loot! Game over and ur welcome. Good luck in future games
    Look up the definition of Instant.

    If an Animation prevents it from activating for .5 to 2 seconds. It isn't instant. Shield Slam, hit it, bam! its done. Blunt arrow, Bam! Spirits within, hit it, wait, then it does the effect. Shield slam and blunt arrow are instant, because you get the effect straight away. Abilities like Spirits within, which are locked to a point in an animation ARE NOT INSTANT. So either there should be a cast timer on the ability to take into the consideration the animation time before the effect happens. Or the effect should fire off, then lock you in the animation.

    Ive never "trouged?" through any MMO. Played numerous MMOs, since EQ, at a high level. When I activate an ability and I don't receive the effect at the beginning, middle or even at the end of the animation, yet still get the cooldown...

    Helpful advice if your first language isn't english (it isn't mine either). It makes your post easier to read if you stick to one language and not use the dutch u for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Look up the definition of Instant.

    Helpful advice if your first language isn't english (it isn't mine either). It makes your post easier to read if you stick to one language and not use the dutch u for you
    Thank u for the advice, yeh English is far from something i master well, and typing on Ipad is hell on earht ><

    Anyway, my initial reply to u was a bit rude, so sorry about that one.

    On my Pld its very easy to notice the issue, i asume u know what skills i have in mind. I agree that when learning an encounter the ability is not such an "Oh shit" skill i would like it to be. This is forcing me to have more focus on how the fights work, and adapt (or atleast try). This kind of progression and playstyle in new fights i find rewarding.
    I think (might be wrong) this is working as intended, and for my part i hope they dont change it.


    I did hit my break on the car, i have a angry guy coming out of the car infront of me, i failed, but i still used my breaks. Next time il try look a bit further in front of me.
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    Last edited by Phai; 12-25-2013 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cikala View Post
    Actually, it's more like buying a BMW and finding out you have a two-stroke minibike engine in it. I mean after all, I'm only expecting my BMW to have the same engine as every other BMW out there, but it doesn't.
    That is one way of looking at it although rather than a minibike engine I'd say it's more like a Corvette LS1 engine. The problem is that MMOs have become stale and whenever something changes people complain about it. This is why there is no innovation and many companies aren't making MMOs because the risk of trying something new is too high.

    I don't know about you but I am soooooo tired of the same MMO reskinned in different IPs. FFXIV is fresh in a lot of ways and I hope it stays that way.

    This game forces you to be more proactive, not reactive in how you battle bosses. In this way the combat is similar enough to be familiar to MMO players but not exactly like every other MMO.
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