DPS parsing Black Mage numbers since patch

[Zerosix]

I am at item level i83. Went from 300-305 Down to about 280-290. Roughly 5 percent due to the awkward mana ticks and having to to resort to using Fire3>Fire1x5>Blizzard 3>Blizzard>Thunder>Repeat. Anyone else seeing comparable numbers with mine, or have a more optimized UI portion I can try? I kinda want to be back in the 300 range, and it is depressing to know outside of a weapon I will not really be able to regain the lost damage.

Any information would be appreciated.

[SirGazuntai]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-BLM-rotations...

I tested a bunch of rotations and found I can get around 250-300 DPS with single rotation. It's mostly the same as yours, though.

My main rotation is just Fire III > Fire I spam > Blizz III > Thunder II > Repeat. The mana ticks aren't that awkward, though. They just take a little getting used to.

It isn't that much of a damage loss, though. I never notice it in single rotations unless I'm parsing. Only time I notice DPS loss is AoE rotations.

[P_Wing]

Thunder+Blizzard are too much, I think (you use whole 5s for that). You could use Thunder3 or wait a little after Thunder2 in some cases instead.

[Waliel]

You should only use Blizzard if you get the mana tick late in the Thunder cast. Takes a bit getting used to how the UI-AF switch works now and when to use Blizzard, etc.

[Sleigh]

I parse lower now with full i90 and i95 weapon in 2.1 than I did with relic+1 and full i90 in 2.0, anywhere from 10 - 20 DPS depending on how lucky I get with the much more random MP ticks. I think I generally hit about 300 - 310 now sustained over 5 minutes, though I haven't done much testing at all.

The sustained DPS loss doesn't bother me much, it's hard to notice at all. We're still quite good, though probably 2nd lowest DPS now in fights where everyone can shine (in the fights where melee can shine, anyway). However, the double dip loss and MP regen has me killing adds and mechanics significantly slower, and that to me is when the BLM changes really hit home, since that was (and still is to a lesser extent) our greatest strength outside of being AoE gods (which we still handily are, even nerfed).

[NeoAmon]

Personally, I use Thunder III as part of my rotation. The new mana tick is unreliable and Thunder III is my current solution, heck I even use it on Titan EX and still do very well.

[Darkstarz]

just use this

/macroicon "Thunder III"
/ac "Thunder III" <t>
/ac "Thunder II" <t>
/ac "Thunder" <t>

Will cast whichever you have mana to fill, if you cast Thunder 2 or 1, you will need to scathe/blizzard tho.

[Waliel]

Scathe should only be used if you're moving, as Blizzard is better DPS.

[Lenarr]

just use this

/macroicon "Thunder III"
/ac "Thunder III" <t>
/ac "Thunder II" <t>
/ac "Thunder" <t>

Will cast whichever you have mana to fill, if you cast Thunder 2 or 1, you will need to scathe/blizzard tho.

Only issue is that macro's don't queue up. Hence the reason I went away from this sort of thing.

[Zerosix]

Personally, I use Thunder III as part of my rotation. The new mana tick is unreliable and Thunder III is my current solution, heck I even use it on Titan EX and still do very well.

I have 251 piety, and after doing 5 fire 1s I never have enough mana to do thunder 3. How do you wind up with enough mana to use thunder 3 without only doing 4 fire cast? Thunder 2 requires me to wait or use blizzard after. If I use blizzard after it would have been better to use thunder 1. Am I wrong on this?