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  1. #21
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    SirGazuntai's Avatar
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    Sir Gazuntai
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Bungle View Post
    Had this happen to me as well half an hour ago. BRD legs dropped, but I was typing in order to say thanks to the alliance for the smooth run. It only took 10 seconds for everyone from my party to leave and I got saddled up with an item I don't need nor want (I have the AF+1 already) and a week of waiting until I can loot something I'm actually interested in (BRD feet or MNK set).
    While this has always been the case, never has it had consequences like in CT where you're locked out for a whole week. I do agree not rolling for five minutes should have some kind of penalty, but even then I've had times where, after running WP for the 10th time, I didn't even look at the loot button anymore and just forgot about it, so mistakes can still happen even in that case.
    I'm not gonna propose a solution because I don't have one, but something clearly needs to be done about the looting when everyone left thing.
    While I agree with the WP runs (I often feel bad when someone wants the slime pet and I forgot to click Pass because I was Flare-ing everything down), CT is different. Everyone is actively looking at the loot to make sure it's something they want. If it isn't, they should hit Pass rather than closing the window. The people closing the window are just being lazy rather than letting someone have their loot before we move on.

    However, the solution to the loot being given when everyone leaves is simple. All they have to do is make it so that 1 person still counts as a party and rolling is still required. If I'm the only one left I should still get the option to choose whether I want the item or not and not be shafted because my computer is too slow.

    I'm not saying they should change the fact that you get automatically given an item if you didn't Pass, however people shouldn't be crying about it because they were too lazy to do anything about it. If they changed it so you automatically Pass if you don't do anything, you might miss out on gear you wanted at the end of the dungeon but couldn't Need or Greed for it because everyone left.

    The main thing that needs changed is the end of the dungeon. The other thing is something that doesn't have to be changed, but probably will because the majority of people are too lazy.
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    Moogle: Black Mage ftw.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/129860-So-I-tested-some-BLM-rotations...

    Here's a link to a bunch of rotation and DPS numbers I wrote up to try help BLM see they aren't as weak as they might think.

  2. #22
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    Azu La
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Add an NPC that you can trade accidental loot to to gain another chance at loot, simple solution.

    ALSO maybe change the rules a little, possibly add a 1 need/greed per week, but gear that is dropped, not lotted on wont count towards that, so you could technically get lots of gear that way.
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    Last edited by AzuLa; 12-28-2013 at 08:08 PM.

  3. #23
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    La_Dava's Avatar
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    Tridy Ais
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    Brynhildr
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    Archer Lv 50
    Wow, I'm not the only one with this issue. Last night after last boss when I tried to pass on the loot because I didnt need it (MNK loot) I got the item. I saw that all the ppl exit the instance but as I am playing on a PS3 I have this 5 seconds lag...
    Now I have to wait a week to loot again for something I really need, If this not happen to me again... Please SE fix this problem ASAP.
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    "Every men die, but not every men really live"

  4. #24
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by AzuLa View Post
    Add an NPC that you can trade accidental loot to to gain another chance at loot, simple solution.

    ALSO maybe change the rules a little, possibly add a 1 need/greed per week, but gear that is dropped, not lotted on wont count towards that, so you could technically get lots of gear that way.
    Coding up a whole system to first be able to recognize when loot is accidental or not and then create a npc that accepts it is not simple at all, especially compared to adjusting the loot system to not force auto-loot on the last remaining player. Your second idea is so exploitable it's not even funny.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 12-29-2013 at 12:51 AM.

  5. #25
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    Porom Suileabhain
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    Balmung
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Last night i watched this very same thing happen to my husband. While his ps3 was still trying to let him get out of the cs so he could look at the loot, the rest of the party left, and he got stuck with the drg body. I was one of the people to jump out (i didn't realize how poorly implemented the lockout was) and the rest of the party was randoms, definitely something open to griefing. Has anyone got a response to this issue?
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  6. #26
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    Jellybean Fyth
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    Mateus
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Adding my voice to the din. This ended up screwing me too.

    I was last person out of the instance and got saddled with something I didn't want as my very first piece of CT loot. Fortunately I can use it with an off class, but I hate that it was forced on me because I wanted gear for my main class. I feel even worse for the people that end up with something they will never use.

    Not rolling should count as a pass until I hit the button for Need or Greed, period.
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  7. #27
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    Porom Suileabhain
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    Coding up a whole system to first be able to recognize when loot is accidental or not and then create a npc that accepts it is not simple at all, especially compared to adjusting the loot system to not force auto-loot on the last remaining player
    All they really need to do right now is give the game masters the ability to fix it after the fact while they figure out how to fix it permanently.
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  8. #28
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    Jessari Ignis
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    Lamia
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    Culinarian Lv 50
    Happened to me today as well. I just posted another thread about it.

    We finish the last boss in Crystal Tower. The loot drops. I open the loot window to look at it, mouse over the loot to read the stats and decide if I might want it for my other job. I don't want it, but the entire alliance has already left the instance and it auto-sorts to me in less than 20 seconds after killing the boss.

    I know people that can't even load after the fight that fast.

    Given that we can only get one piece of loot a week from the Crystal Tower (which I have no problem with) we should get more than 20 seconds when making that choice. I know this doesn't happen every time, but one player as no control over how fast the other seven people leave after the fight is done.

    Some kind of confirmation button when loot is going to auto-sort and you haven't rolled need, greed or pass yet might be in order. At the very least, please consider adding this to the last chest on Crystal Tower if nothing else.
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  9. #29
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    Aresaka Kunokai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Definitely a problem. For the past week and a half ive been trying to get the Tank body and my friend has been trying to get the monk body. We went into seperate instances and on the last boss the monk body dropped without him being there. I was telling him what happened in the chat when everyone left and i was given the damn body locking me out of getting my armour for another WEEK. That is absolutely ridiciulous i had a good 10-12 seconds to react. The cutscene probably wouldnt have even been over by the time i was given it, i didnt even have an option. Its disgusting and very very very bad planning.
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  10. #30
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Happened to me too, was caught in ps3 loading screen, shortly after accepted the raise I had-caught in loading screen yet again(Yea I died just around the end) and everyone already left and royal crown which is a downgrade from my allagan circlet of healing was forced into my armory chest.
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