WAR Stat Allocation Str vs. Vit

[DenzelTaru]

My friend alts BRD (ilevel 73) and outplayed the ilevel 80 BRD

Lol i love going onto my 3rd job (i have one in each role) which is DRG in only ilv69 gear and out DPS'ing ilv80 BLM's just by rotation xD (of course only the ones who arent whizz kids, which seems to be alot of em /fates)

as for my question being answered.. yes i love being STR i am just wondering if it would be different and more desirable to be VIT.. i dont fully understand stats that well.. which is why i am asking..

i do have oh shit moments as WAR.. but.. what would 20 more vit do? allow one more hit before the oh shit moment? i guess yea thats more time for the healer.. but.. seen as i can tank in the DPS rotation i actually am out DPSing some DPS in long fights lol meaning i am speeding fights up, so less healing overall.. opinions is what i need lol

[Kal-El]

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Unless things have changed STR works in tiers. In other words you need to hit a certain number to achieve the next % damage increase. So technically you could be wasting 20 STR and still not hit the next tier or you hit the tier by 1 point wasting 19 etc.

Mitigation is effected by STR (parry). This again works in tiers and do you really parry that much to warrant that 5hp extra you parried?

Going full VIT doesn't just mean more hp. It effects several things such as Thrill of Battle and Lustrate. Not only that your HP will tick 9hp (I think it's that) more every 3 seconds. Which doesn't sound a lot but that's 900HP every 5 minutes (which is a lot more than you'd get from a slight parry mitigation increase).

[abzoluut]

If you are out-dpsing deeps on your WAR, I feel sorry for the deeps. No offense, but that only happens when they don't know how to play their job.

Does a STR WAR add dps to a fight? Yes. Does it speed up the fight? Yes. Does it speed up the fight to a point others notice it? Not really. I think you'd be the best judge. You also need to consider what plays 'best' for you. Reading this, I think you lean more towards STR.

From my own experience: I run with a static so when you have good synergy with the healer (especially post 2.1 where you can land debuffs, buff yourself etc), it really boils down to timing. However, from what I've heard from several healers now, is that they rather have the 8K + WAR than the STR one.

[erikdaae]

read somewhere online stating that e magic str number is 405, unless u could hit e next tier which is 445 or 471.

[Gamemako]

Your friend was wrong about SCH too, so you can probably assume he's wrong about Warrior.

He's not wrong about crit. It maybe worth maybe 30% more per point on average than on most jobs, but it still doesn't hold a candle to MND.

thanks for all the input.. i feel i am a good WAR but am always looking for ways to improve.. i think i will try full 30VIT and see what my damage and hate management is like then.. then go to 10str and test again.. (i mean.. what else am i gonna spend those seals on?) lol

If you can afford the HP reduction from the ~8300 of 30 VIT allocation with ilvl70 Gryphonskin + HQ Sauteed Coeurl, then knock yourself out. This is something you'll have to work out with your healers. The future-proof option is obviously going to be full VIT setup, but like I always say, if you can live without the VIT, STR is always better in an absolute sense.

[DenzelTaru]

Update:

So i read up on STR and apparently i was in a certain tier for parry and damage without the 20 points anyway.. i dont completely understand this but i am hoping those reading do lol

So with this in mind i went full VIT and well:

- I gained about 400HP in Defiance. not something that really looks all that great but i guess everything else does scale with it

-BUT i can still tank in DPS rotations once i have initial hate which is my style.. and i can still pull hate off PLD's very easily lol

having said that i noticed when doing daily quests.. the mobs i have to fight take 2 weapon skills extra to kill than they did on 20STR

[Judge_Xero]

Damage increase goes point for point with STR.
Tiers is just for your Parry %

So pretty much it's best to go all VIT. Then in the case for your daily quest to just throw on DPS accessories. Most dungeons will be like that too, but for Raiding there is no replacement for HP

[Warrlordd]

would you notice if your warrior is doing 90 or 120 dps? i find a really big difference when i hit the str warr play style. I can ask the same thing this way:

would you notice if your MONK was doing 250 or 280 DPS? I daresay you would. We are just accustomed to not giving tanks credit for that. If you have the gear, play the strength it is more worthwhile than you may think.

Remember though, the FoTM is not the way to go. What I'm trying to say is don't listen to me or anyone because we told you to. Do what you feel is the best way to play, and you will have optimized you and your classes potential. Even if it may not be all that high. :P

[Marxam]

Personally I think that each tanks need to play to their strengths. Paladins go full STR until you hit 405 then VIT. Warriors full VIT. Hp IS out mitigation. This maximizes the strengths of both tanks imo. If anyone complains that warriors don't do enough damage just tell them its on a two minute cooldown :P

Here is the raw data for STR, credits go to it's creator and NOT me.

P.S. This data is pre 2.1 so I can't guarantee that its been tweaked but from playing 2.1 so far I don't think it changed

[Rockaholic]

All on Vit as our dmg reduction is not as good as pld.
Most of the bosses at ex mode take huge chunks of war's health. And also healers would have less stress keeping wars alive during pugs