Job System Timeframe

[Xeno]

I don't think they would add dungeons created for the new battle system if only auto-attack makes it into the game. I don't see why they would waste their time re-balancing a gazillion times because they introduce the basic elements of the game 1 by 1. Almost all of the necessary stuff will be in 1.18, i.e. auto-attack, balancing the classes, adding jobs. If they only add auto-attack and a dungeon this game will fail on so many more levels.

[Isaaru]

I would be surprised if the Job system wasn't out by PS3 release, it provides a really good concept to show off for advertising it. Also, I feel it is safe to say that SE has been working on the job system since at least 2/28/11 since that is the date that Yoshi let us see some nice what also is safe to say concept art for Job specific equipment for two of the jobs that are likely to be added.

Also, iirc all of the battle system changes are supposed to be implemented by the end of the summer. The job system is a huge concept of the battle system seeing how SE wants job system to be group oriented while leaving the current class system for solo play. If SE doesn't release the basis of group play for the battle system they will be unable to create any end game content / dungeons that are challenging like Yoshida says he wants to make.

I am going to make an assumption that the Job system will be implemented in 1.19 or 1.20 (Which I am guess is going to be the patch that prepares for the PS3 launch.)

EDIT: Or in other words what Xeno said... lol

[Thiol]

Ok, so ASSUMING that everything in the letter to the producer is going to be implemented by the end of the summer (as in the Autumnal equinox, september 23rd), including everything in the "future tasks" column, I think that the job system will in fact be implemented.

The said column says that job quests will be implemented. It also says further down that job-specific weapons and armor will be implemented, albeit stage-by-stage. It also says that job mechanics will be implemented, as well as determination of stats and other things. Mechanics, job quests, JSE, and stats seems like a pretty complete system to me, but maybe I'm mistaken. It seems pointless to me to add equipment for a job that doesn't exist, or isn't even playable.

EDIT: In before "It's SE, they never do anything that makes sense"

[Koronos]

Ok, so ASSUMING that everything in the letter to the producer is going to be implemented by the end of the summer (as in the Autumnal equinox, september 23rd), including everything in the "future tasks" column, I think that the job system will in fact be implemented.

The said column says that job quests will be implemented. It also says further down that job-specific weapons and armor will be implemented, albeit stage-by-stage. It also says that job mechanics will be implemented, as well as determination of stats and other things. Mechanics, job quests, JSE, and stats seems like a pretty complete system to me, but maybe I'm mistaken. It seems pointless to me to add equipment for a job that doesn't exist, or isn't even playable.

EDIT: In before "It's SE, they never do anything that makes sense"

You should have read the entire thread. There is nothing about job related quests in the letter, which i pointed out already. Weapon and armor =/= jobs, I know it doesn't make much sense to add equipment without jobs, but it is SE, again, which I already pointed out. So you weren't in before anything, you just failed to read before you posted.

[Koronos]

Almost all of the necessary stuff will be in 1.18, i.e. auto-attack, balancing the classes, adding jobs.

How can you possibly make this statement when none of the information we have says so?

[Xeno]

How can you possibly make this statement when none of the information we have says so?

Oh, I don't know... Common sense maybe? If the jobs are apart of the foundation of the new battle system and they aren't releasing all of the core elements they might as well say goodbye to like 4 months of dev time. Do you realize how much rebalancing of the game they would have to do if they implemented the CORE of the game in stages.

[Koronos]

Oh, I don't know... Common sense maybe? If the jobs are apart of the foundation of the new battle system and they aren't releasing all of the core elements they might as well say goodbye to like 4 months of dev time. Do you realize how much rebalancing of the game they would have to do if they implemented the CORE of the game in stages.

If you think jobs are coming this month you are delusional, period.


de·lu·sion (d-lzhn)

3. Psychiatry A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness: delusions of persecution


Take a look at the table in the last letter again, or my other posts in this thread. Clear evidence that jobs probably will not even be in the game by the end of the summer.

[Ichi]

First sections of the spreadsheet in the letter regards quests.

It says Job Quests, Design of quests to accompany job system, and implementation of jobs.

At the bottom of the Job System changes it clearly says; Creation of job assets, development for graphical assets for each job such as equipment, and stage-by-stage implementation of job specific equipment and weapons.

There's going to be weapons and gear and quests for the jobs but according to the cynics no jobs (I guess that's what they're trying to say). On the other hand if you equip a weapon then you are that job no?

Meh, i guess i need psychiatry.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1592/jobquests.png

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4302/jobsg.png

[Koronos]

I missed the part about the job quests, making my argument about this summer invalid. Although I still doubt we see anything in 1.18.

[Ichi]

I missed the part about the job quests, making my argument about this summer invalid. Although we still aren't going to see anything in 1.18.

I'm not trying to be rude but, it says quests, weapons, and gear for jobs... and because it doesn't say "implementation of jobs" then we aren't going to see anything in 1.18? Just want to make sure I have that strait because it sounds a lot like blind pessimism.