Job System Timeframe

[Koronos]

Alright, this has really been bothering me. There has been quite a bit of talk about the new job system that everyone seems convinced is coming soon. Since it seemed a better use of my time rather than playing the game, I re-read the last letter from the producer, and in the accompanying table, it listed the following about jobs:


(Planned)
-NEW-
Job system mechanics

(Current Tasks)
-NEW-
Development of core mechanics for the job system

(Future Tasks)
-NEW-
Cost assessment for job system implementation


Okay, after some initial confusion, it was cleared up that everything in that table was planned up until the end of the summer. So....by the end of summer they will have assessed the cost of the job system implementation, and not actually added jobs to the game.


Later in the letter Yoshi-P says this:


"A number of plans made at the beginning of the year will soon be ripe for release. Among these are the shiny new job system (a proper system, mind you, not just renamed classes)"


Again, it will soon be ripe for release, not actually released. And this cost assessment business has me worried. Here's my take on it:


"Let's hammer out the details, get some armor and weapons going, and if players respond well to the battle system changes and there are enough of them around at the end of the summer, we will begin to implement the system. If not, it isn't worth the cost."


Am I way off base here?

[Poipori]

You are right, as I mentioned in another thread before, they are still in the "planning stage" for the entire summer.

I reckon we won't seeing the job system any time soon, the earliest would be winter 2011, or maybe early next year.

[Betelgeuzah]

It's coming this Summer. Not in 1.18 but most likely in 1.19.

They are already working on it. Then they'll calculate how much it'll cost to implement it. Then they'll prepare and implement it.

The costs need to be calculated regardless.

Some of the stuff on that list is less likely to be implemented however. They'll probably come to a conclusion on the jumping and AH systems, but we won't see them before Fall.

It's better to expect otherwise, I guess. That way you can only be pleasantly surprised.

[viion]

The job system wont be here until at least new year, i think the letter state's this obviously, with the OP proving that. Or maybe i should learn to read.

It's better to expect otherwise, I guess. That way you can only be pleasantly surprised.

Are you kidding me? that is what people keep doing and then we get all these hate posts and replies (inc myself) of disappointment

Its better to not expect it coming anytime soon!

[Ichi]

Are you kidding me? that is what people keep doing and then we get all these hate posts and replies (inc myself) of disappointment

Its better to not expect it coming anytime soon!

Lol that always cracks me up, so to avoid being disappointed later, you're going to just be disappointed now. How about we look at the facts and not make any decisions based on arbitrary speculation;

Here's a link to a thread on this very forum, the tenth letter from Mr. Yoshida http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805-20-2011%29

The third paragraph final line presents and I quote "Remember, these are our plans until summer 2011!"

Next if you'll scroll down to the Armoury System Changes you'll see included the plans for Jobs and implementation. I should remind you of the first statement "Remember, these are our plans until summer 2011!"

So there it is the only objective evidence on this thread. Rebuttal?

[Koronos]

Lol that always cracks me up, so to avoid being disappointed later, you're going to just be disappointed now. How about we look at the facts and not make any decisions based on arbitrary speculation;

Here's a link to a thread on this very forum, the tenth letter from Mr. Yoshida http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805-20-2011%29

The third paragraph final line presents and I quote "Remember, these are our plans until summer 2011!"

Next if you'll scroll down to the Armoury System Changes you'll see included the plans for Jobs and implementation. I should remind you of the first statement "Remember, these are our plans until summer 2011!"

So there it is the only objective evidence on this thread. Rebuttal?

Um...your post wasn't very clear, but I'm assuming you are making a statement about how jobs will be implemented this summer based on that chart. However, nowhere in the letter does it say ANYTHING about job implementation. Here's what we have as far as jobs go:

Establishment of job specifics (Nope)

Job system mechanics (Nope)

Creation of job assets (Nope)

Development of core mechanics for the job system (Nope)

Establish the details of the initial set of jobs and their skills (Nope)

Development of graphical assets for each job such as equipment (Nope)

Cost assessment for job system implementation (Nope)

Determine the attributes of each job (Nope)

Stage by stage implementation of job-specific weapons and armor (Nope)



EDIT:

also looked in the "In Development" section and found only these two items.

[dev1076] Creation of job assets
Development of graphical assets for each job such as equipment

[dev1075] Establishment of job specifics
Establish the details of the initial set of jobs and their skills

Again, nothing to make me think jobs are coming anytime soon.

~BUT~

We still have this to help define party roles better until jobs are released, and to help us enjoy dungeons and whatever Grand Companies content they throw our way.


[dev1074] Reexamination of requirements for setting actions
Implement the default setting of class-specific actions when playing as that class, and define conditions for setting the actions of other classes.

[Koronos]

It's coming this Summer. Not in 1.18 but most likely in 1.19.

With 1,000 posts here I won't say you're wrong, but if you have a source with specific dates I will ask that you provide them, otherwise it seems like just blind optimism on your part.

[darkstarpoet1]

With 1,000 posts here I won't say you're wrong, but if you have a source with specific dates I will ask that you provide them, otherwise it seems like just blind optimism on your part.

it's just blind optimism. i will not hold hope that it will be here before the beginning of the year. i only say that because no matter how low i have dropped my expectations se continues to disappoint. if it comes before then i will just be happy to see it, but i will not hold my breath for it and would actually bet against it.

[Betelgeuzah]

With 1,000 posts here I won't say you're wrong, but if you have a source with specific dates I will ask that you provide them, otherwise it seems like just blind optimism on your part.

It's not really blind optimism, because it makes sense.

That doesn't mean it'll be true, but they have been working on the system for half a year now. I don't see why it would take another to implement the core system.

[RedAffinity]

I'd imagine "Jobs" would make for an excellent marketing tool alongside release of the PS3 version. You have to realize the publishing side is at close watch with the Development team. It's a safe bet to say while the essentials are being rushed, some features will delay for polish, and launch with PS3 version roping in players with hype.

Again it may not necessarily be Jobs, but it's highly likely some kind of desirable feature / expansion / content will be announced with the PS3 version and I can't imagine what more would be perfect with the introduction of traditional Jobs looking flashy in their artifact armor instantly recognizable by Final Fantasy veterans.

my thoughts. who knows.. : )