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  1. #1
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    Acholate's Avatar
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    Acholate Narfelas
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    Zeromus
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    Materia melding failing 21 times in a row

    I try to do materia melding but it failing 21 times in a row.
    It said 35% chance to success but failing 21 times in a row is almost impossible.
    The possibility of failing is 65%
    The possibility of failing 21 times in a row is equal to 0.65^21
    or 0.01178095479%, this number is below 3 sigma and I don't believe this can be happen.

    Item name: Aetheryte Ring
    First slot: Control+3 materia (100% chance no problem)
    Second slot: Still none (Trying to meld CP+3 materia but failing 21 times in a row)

    I am running out of gil, otherwise I would buy more materia and I believe it will keep failing again.

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    World name: Zeromus
    Character name: Acholate Narfelas
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    I buy materia every town, and melding in front of market board

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    Last edited by Acholate; 12-23-2013 at 11:48 PM.

  2. #2
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    ruinedmirage's Avatar
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    Jera Teiwaz
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    With those odds, I'd buy a lottery ticket if I were you.
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    Lamiana Foamfollower
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acholate View Post
    It said 35% chance to success but failing 21 times in a row is almost impossible.
    Something that is ALMOST impossible can still happen. It's very unlikely that this would happen to any particular person, BUT when you consider the entire population it's almost inevitable that this sort of thing will happen to SOMEONE. You basically "won" the anti-lottery. The odds of being a big winner on power ball is much lower than your situation, but some lucky few still manage to win it.
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  4. 12-24-2013 03:46 AM
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    glitchy app

  5. 12-24-2013 03:47 AM
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    glitchy app

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    Myomi Lynn
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    if you are failing that much, you probably should take a break and stop melding. don't meld till u become broke. maybe you will get better luck the next day.
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    Jeremy Dale
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    The Materia system on this game is done rather poorly and not worth the trouble if you ask me anyway. I would put your time and effort into something else and save yourself the annoyance.
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  8. #6
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    Acholate Narfelas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquisitor View Post
    Something that is ALMOST impossible can still happen. It's very unlikely that this would happen to any particular person, BUT when you consider the entire perhat hopulation it's almost inevitable that this sort of thing will happen to SOMEONE. You basically "won" the anti-lottery. The odds of being a big winner on power ball is much lower than your situation, but some lucky few still manage to win it.
    I know there is a chance something like this could happen, but I feel that if I continue, it will keep feeling. Unfortunately, I am running out of gil to try any further.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myomi View Post
    if you are failing that much, you probably should take a break and stop melding. don't meld till u become broke. maybe you will get better luck the next day.
    You probably right. But I am so pissed off and start to thought this is a bug when I failing around 12 times. I keep melding further because I am curious how this could happen and wanted to prove that this is definitely a bug.
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  9. #7
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    Mithras Invictus
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    It isn't a bug. It certainly sucks, but you have to remember that every time that you try to meld, it re-rolls for that specific try. A 35% chance means that over thousands and thousands and thousands of melds, the results THEORETICALLY should balance out to 35/100. It doesn't actually mean that if you meld 100 times, that 35 of those times will have been successful. I feel for you though, I have certainly blown up more than enough materia myself!
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    Cearka Larue
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    the RNG on materia melding is just flat out frustrating most of the time. not much can be done about it.
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  11. #9
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    Femke Fisker
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    Archer Lv 56
    I have been having similar issues. Not quite as bad but still very frustrating. I wish they would implement a system that after 3 failed attempts on the same item, your success rate increases by say 5% for every consecutive failure from then on. That's hardly asking for a lot.
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  12. #10
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    Master Matsume
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 50
    I once failed a 24% success forbidden meld 30 times in a row.

    It was a bad day. On the flip side, they were only Tier II/III crafting materia...
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