Dear DPS....I am *SO* sorry

[Spawnie]

To be fair, we DPS give bad tanks an awful time, and don't often thank the ones who do their job properly.

not always i did n AK run via duty finder earlier n the tank was prolly 1 of the better 1s ive seen of late n polite aswell xD

[Awrini]

One thing that about set me off was this time in a CM duty roulette group on my WHM. We had Pally War 2 WHM 2 Sum BLM BRD. I main BRD and suggested that the bard try running Foes since we had so much magic DPS. The entire group jumped me with insults and the bard ended up running only army's the entire run. I was just dumbfounded.

[Zellata]

One thing that about set me off was this time in a CM duty roulette group on my WHM. We had Pally War 2 WHM 2 Sum BLM BRD. I main BRD and suggested that the bard try running Foes since we had so much magic DPS. The entire group jumped me with insults and the bard ended up running only army's the entire run. I was just dumbfounded.

Wow...I am tempted to say "pics or it didn't happen", because this is beyond dumb.

[Ehayte]

To be fair, we DPS give bad tanks an awful time, and don't often thank the ones who do their job properly.

I'm a tank, but I also have another character that is a Relic +1 Full DL+ BLM, and I HATE tanks when I run on my BLM, but I am sure to compliment and hint where I can. I think that what this poster had to say is true, and is the root of the problem. DPS and healers often times tear into bad tanks, and don't thank or encourage good ones or good behavior. I think tanks get it the worst because our actions are the most transparent - everyone can see how much damage we are taking and how much hate we have, and if we screw up, everyone is dead (likely).

DPS has A LOT more slack to the lay-man's eye. If you are paying really close attention if you can tell if a BLM or maybe even a SMN sucks, but its hard to identify a bad BRD or DRG because we can't really focus on identifying how much damage they are specifically contributing.

If you are really mean to tanks that are learning, and don't thank tanks who succeed, we are going to be pissy and feel kicked around and defensive. I'm sure by popular vote no one would call me a jerk from DF interactions, but I can certainly see how this environment could create jerks.

[AideLee]

Ho-lee shit.

Really? Because it's not funny.

[Viridiana]

DPS has A LOT more slack to the lay-man's eye. If you are paying really close attention if you can tell if a BLM or maybe even a SMN sucks, but its hard to identify a bad BRD or DRG because we can't really focus on identifying how much damage they are specifically contributing.

Really depends how bad the BRD or DRG is. I've seen BRDs not using dots and DRGs standing in front of the enemy the entire time presumably going through just the Full Thrust combo.

But, yeah, every class gets their bads, tanks and healers just tend to be more visible or critical.

[Artemiz]

DPS has A LOT more slack to the lay-man's eye. If you are paying really close attention if you can tell if a BLM or maybe even a SMN sucks, but its hard to identify a bad BRD or DRG because we can't really focus on identifying how much damage they are specifically contributing.

As a very rough guide I go by the enmity meter next to the players name, it's easy for me to judge a tank (and DPS accordingly) that way for single target boss fights and enmity reducing abilities aside you can generally asume the DPS with the most enmity after 50% of the fight is the big hitter.

[File2ish]

There's a lot of "undesirable" players in the game. It's annoying to have to deal with them, but I put up with them as best I can. And I don't insult people, just makes the experience worse for everyone. I will defend people however, especially in blame games. I'd rather hold the party together and finish the instance rather than see everyone re-queue. It's horrid for DPS roles.

There are assh0les in all three of the roles. I've seen my fair share of them in my time playing XIV:ARR as a bard and white mage (Though significantly less in the DPS roles I've noticed, possibly because most people play DPS). You just can't please people.

As a bard I've been told to not use songs because it cuts my DPS (particularly by tanks), which is true, however my 20% decrease will ultimately either help the party's survival (Mage Ballad) or increase the damage output of the possibly better geared members of the party (MNK and DRG burn TP so I TP song up when asked, BLM can really benefit from Foe). What's worse is that sometimes in the same parties that tell me not to sing, the person that said not to gets angry that I didn't use it or used one they wanted. "I didn't have TP!" (I can't see it and the WHM was at 500MP and very recently used SoS...).

As a WHM I've been praised occasionally for doing good work, but it usually becomes a blame game if something goes wrong. "You pulled too much hate!" "Why aren't you stance dancing!?" "Sleep them!" "You suck! How'd you die!?" "Don't heal DPS they're not supposed to get hit anyway!" "Manage your MP better!"

And as my nooby gladiator in early duty roulette dungeons... "You suck! HOLD HATE!" (Yeah no sh*t, it's hard when you're going all out in your ilvl 90 relic +1/zenith in full AF2 and allagan gear whilst I'm in level 15-20 gear).

[Ooshima]

And as my nooby gladiator in early duty roulette dungeons... "You suck! HOLD HATE!" (Yeah no sh*t, it's hard when you're going all out in your ilvl 90 relic +1/zenith in full AF2 and allagan gear whilst I'm in level 15-20 gear).

Tell them they suck, because the 3 of them with i90 weapons and gears should be able to finish them with brute force.

Hell, did those low level 10-30 guildhests with FC mates, our average ilevel are probably 80 and we feel that we hardly need any tanking nor healing at all, everything just dies like ants.

[LionKing]

"If you want the job to be done right, do it yourself". That is my life's philosophy. I grew up as a DPS, throughout my journey to 50 , I have seen so many unexpected things, be it DPS, Tank or Healer. Thanks to all that craps I encountered, I had incentive to level up my own Paladin and my own Healer and I became great assets to my FC as well as to my friends. I never tank before in any MMO and FF14 is the first, so I am still new to the whole tank kinda thing. I leant how to Tank under DPS point of view and thanks to that experience, I learnt their mistakes and perfect myself. Just yesterday, I went in Tam Tara with a tank lv 50 (wearing AF gear) and all he did was Fast blade + Riot blade, did not even bother using a Flash. The healed ended up tanking 50% of the Duns and I run around to pull hate of healer as a Pug, lv 25, wearing lv 15 equipment and yet when I was on the same mobs as him, I pull aggro right after my second rotation.Thanks to SE that the vote kick system was implemented, so we replaced him with some more capable.