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  1. #1
    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90

    Summoner Enkindle

    The cool down for Enkindle should be lowered to 60s with the lost of thunder. Enkindle has an insanely long cool down for the amount of damage a 300s cool down on a skill should do an insane amount of damage Summoners should be able to do 33% damage to a bosses health with a 300s cd. Let's say a Summoner on 196dps Enkindle with it's 300s cool down should at least do 6000 damage. Also if the cool down for Enkindle is lowered to 60s it wouldn't be op because Summoners only use it when Rouse and Spur is up.

    Blizzard 2 is a useless replacement for thunder it doesn't fit in with the Summoners play style I tried to find a use for it but I ended up taking it out of my rotation and ignoring it.
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    Torin Escarpa
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    No. Still no.

    They aren't going to buff SMN DPS when they just finished nerfing us. We're still top DPS in all the ST end-game content and are near the top of the list on AoE encounters.

    I get it, long CD, level 50 skill, should do rediculous damage, right? Well, if this was a single player game, sure. But in a world where we already out-DPS everyone else by 10-20%, how can you possibly justify buffing us?

    Blizzard II is AoE filler, i.e. what you do when you've already put out Miasma 2, Shadow Flare and Bane'd your DoTs to everything.
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    Last edited by T0rin; 12-23-2013 at 11:26 PM.

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    Sarah Leonhart
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I'm not exactly sure this is the correct approach. If you want to lower the cooldown while also increasing the damage, you would have to put on some heavy restrictions. To create the affect your looking for, it would be more along the lines of an "Execute" maneuver. Basically, it should only be useable after the target has reached a near death situation (like being at 30% of max HP).

    SMN by design isn't ment to be a bursty class. The reason they are top dps (even post nerf) is because they are a DoT class. The benefit of DoTs is that if they are allowed to complete their duration, they will output the most DPS over a long period of time. You cannot give too many "pieces of the puzzle" to one class without detracting favor from other classes.
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    AhriSazame's Avatar
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    Asa Ittetsu
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Lower the CD and have Enkindle use up an Aether mark.
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    EvilJoshy's Avatar
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    Frost Bite
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    Exodus
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Like most smns, when I saw this ability I wanted it. When I got it I was slightly disappointed. A very long cool down for an ability that doesn't top fester? It isn't always a disappointment. I have seen it hit for over 1k sometimes and other times I've seen it hit for 600. I've I crit with fester I've broken 1300 a few times. Other times I've had fester do 400,600,800,1000 ect. Very jumpy. Since enkindle takes so long to recast I'd feel better if it was more likely to do my top dmg every cast.
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    Athena Darkfairy
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Enkindle seems like its useless unless you actual employ it for what it is. In terms of power its basically an AOE Fester with no cast prereqs and no target cap.

    While Ifrit's is the most powerful, lolIfrit. Most people will end up using Garuda's Aerial Blast. Titan's is also good for add control for locking down lots of weak enemies. I use his on Haukke HMs first boss a lot. You figure that my Enkindle does something around 890 damage (no parses, but I remember seeing that number a couple times recently). If I use it and hit 7 skellingtons, that's 6230 damage from a move that requires no MP. From a DOT class. You expect that kind of effect from a beefed out BLM slinging AOE spells, not the little guy with the status effects. So we can only do it every 5 minutes to keep us from being broken.

    Also helps to use a macro. Mine looks like this:

    /p Now <pet>! Show them what you've really got!
    /ac Rouse <me>
    /wait 1
    /ac Spur <me>
    /wait 1
    /p ENKINDLE! <se.7>
    /ac Enkindle <t>
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    From the fields of Planet Ragol and Vanadiel, conquering one new world at a time. Family transcending borders 2000-2014 and on - The Deneb 4 Crew / Knights of Deneb forever!

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    Frost Bite
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    Exodus
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    I had a macro like that but sometimes it would skip rouse or spur. I've read the reason macros do this but I can't recall it. Since I don't want to use enkindle without rouse+spur I use this setup

    /ac "Rouse" <me>
    /ac "Spur" <me>
    /ac "Enkindle" <t>

    I have to hit the button 3 times but I haven't seen it skip one step unless it was on cooldown

    I haven't thought about using titans enkindle for that boss fight but now that you mention it I wanna try it. It's nice to see people experimenting and not using just garuda for contagion. I use ifrit mostly on the way to the boss and garuda for the actual boss. I want inferno to be aoe and not a cone because sometimes I've placed him wrong and didn't hit everyone. While were on the subject. What does the gold circle from earthen fury actually do and would it stack with shadow flare? >.>
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    Last edited by EvilJoshy; 12-24-2013 at 02:55 AM.

  8. #8
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    Darksword's Avatar
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    Athena Darkfairy
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    The gold circle causes a weak DoT effect to any enemies that step in it. Like 15 potency for 10 seconds or something to that effect. And it does stack with Shadow Flare.

    Also, please don't use Ifrit. He really is useless and horrible compared to Garuda, much as it pains me to say that.
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    From the fields of Planet Ragol and Vanadiel, conquering one new world at a time. Family transcending borders 2000-2014 and on - The Deneb 4 Crew / Knights of Deneb forever!

  9. #9
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    AhriSazame's Avatar
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    Asa Ittetsu
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I use Ifrit when fighting Ash in Haukke Manor since the ground attacks silence, making Garuda pretty much useless.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    enkindle vs flare
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