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    I hope the developers read this. they have a huge gap in dps use between brd vs drg or mnk. they totally made bard the king of everything in final fantasy11. now they repeat the same habit. either nerf bards and make them equal to monks and dragoons or make monks and dragoons just as good any bard in any situation. seems that the developers hate melee dps and this trend needs to change also. how about making new end game content that makes easier being melee as opposed to ranged. all I ask is balance here. bards are king because SE allowed there favoritism towards bards to run wild yet again.
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    wut? 10 characters
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    ooook? bard is flexible dps.but everyone and their mother outdpses em endgame @@
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    Brd king DPS?
    Are you guesstimating?
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    I was talking about usage/popularity as opposed to damage or parser outputs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erzascarlett View Post
    I hope the developers read this. they have a huge gap in dps use between brd vs drg or mnk. they totally made bard the king of everything in final fantasy11. now they repeat the same habit.
    FFXI Bard: King of Everything? Try the abused tossed aside wife.

    If it was the King why was it extremely low as far as community max lvl %?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erzascarlett View Post
    I was talking about usage/popularity as opposed to damage or parser outputs.
    Show me an official census, the game is DPS job heavy in general and I see a mix of them all, all the time. The TGS census only showed job role %, if I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    FFXI Bard: King of Everything? Try the abused tossed aside wife.

    If it was the King why was it extremely low as far as community max lvl %?

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    Show me an official census, the game is DPS job heavy in general and I see a mix of them all, all the time. The TGS census only showed job role %, if I recall.
    that double minuet was OP , no1 likes to play BRD on FFXI , is the most boring job ever ....sing 2 songs on melee , 2 songs on casters , cast your debuffs and keep everything up.....
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 12-24-2013 at 02:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    that double minuet was OP , no1 likes to play BRD on FFXI , is the most boring job ever ....sing 2 songs on melee , 2 songs on casters , cast your debuffs and keep everything up.....
    You could say the same about any job in FFXI. I enjoyed playing bard, I was the busiest member of the party most of the time when leveling it up, and in merit parties. In end game fights it was boring, but so were most jobs in most fights. Everyone can't be a blm pulling hate and running like hell from Kirin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erzascarlett View Post
    I was talking about usage/popularity as opposed to damage or parser outputs.
    Quote Originally Posted by erzascarlett View Post
    I hope the developers read this. they have a huge gap in dps use between brd vs drg or mnk. they totally made bard the king of everything in final fantasy11. now they repeat the same habit. either nerf bards and make them equal to monks and dragoons or make monks and dragoons just as good any bard in any situation. seems that the developers hate melee dps and this trend needs to change also. how about making new end game content that makes easier being melee as opposed to ranged. all I ask is balance here. bards are king because SE allowed there favoritism towards bards to run wild yet again.
    If you're a DRG complaining about spots in a party, you should be complaining about MNKs, not BRDs. Nobody with brains would take any more than 1 BRD for current content anymore due to the recent changes. Parties will generally also bring 1 melee DPS for LB. In that case, MNKs bring far more utility to the group than a DRG can ever bring thanks to them being able to silence and mantra.

    If the recent BRD nerfs along with DRG boosts still has people choosing to stack BRD over picking another melee, they are gimping themselves period.

    Now if you were to complain about MNKs being overly useful compared to DRG, then I agree but the way you worded your initial post, you clearly have a deeply ingrained hate against BRDs for whatever reason baffles me when your real and only competition for spots in a group is a MNK.

    Also, if you wish to bring MNKs and DRGs up to the level of utility a BRD currently has on a group, you'd need to bring BRDs DPS up to the level of MNKs and DRGs. You don't simply get something without losing anything.
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    Last edited by OPneedNerfs; 12-23-2013 at 02:35 PM.

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