Please Tune Dungeons

[bob13bob]

Duty Roulette is too easy, lower stat caps. The content is becoming trivial and boring and new players are not learning because trivialized content. You can buff rewards so rewards/min remain the same as they should and will take longer.

New dungeons Pharos, etc are too hard and require higher gear than they drop. This is obviously not as intended. AK was way easier and drops the same gear as Pharos. The game is more fun with natural gear progression than being carried by i90s. It is more fun to earn gear.

[bob13bob]

On that note, I feel dungeon rewards should be partially weighted for how long it takes. Right now, the most effective way to get gear is just quit from normally geared groups and re-DF in hopes of overgeared group, which can clear twice as fast but is extremely boring. I would love to experience and enjoy the content as intended, but not be so severely punished for it. Even if I swear off the mindset of trying to maximized gear/min; I still have two depressing options: 1) go through content geared normally which is almost impossibly hard or 2) Re-DF for overgeared group in which contest is trivial and boring.

Increase Ilvl requirements on Titan HM, as there is no way a group can get through with i57 gear. It makes pugging impossible, and the majority of players are now getting through with by being carried by ilv 90 FC members. Premades can already DF w/o Ilvl requirements, so increasing will really help us puggers out. Not all of us wanna be in a giant FC.

[Vanroe]

Increase Ilvl requirements on Titan HM, as there is no way a group can get through with i57 gear. It makes pugging impossible, and the majority of players are now getting through with by being carried by ilv 90 FC members. Premades can already DF w/o Ilvl requirements, so increasing will really help us puggers out. Not all of us wanna be in a giant FC.

Pugging titan is not impossible, in fact the only way ive ever beaten him is through DF random groups. Every server pug ive been in has failed. DPS is fine most of the time, but once Phase 5 hits, most groups melt to the mechanics (usually plumes, bombs and the different timing of landslide). It's not a gear issue.

[Worm]

On that note, I feel dungeon rewards should be partially weighted for how long it takes. Right now, the most effective way to get gear is just quit from normally geared groups and re-DF in hopes of overgeared group, which can clear twice as fast but is extremely boring.

Did you ever wonder if your current malaise with the game is a problem with you and how you're playing it? Undergeared groups can be a lot of fun if you speak with them and explain things. Some of my most rewarding experiences in MMOs have been getting things done under less than optimal conditions.

I think you have to face the facts, you're playing Loot Badge Farmer 2013, not an MMO. Any problem you're having is directly connected with how you're viewing the game. Since you're playing it in a purely utilitarian way you don't have fun. At least this is what your post makes it sound like.

As far as raising the ilvl requirement on the new dungeons and lowering the stat cap, I dunno. I could see lowering the stat cap, but I feel those dungeons are really doable as is. I just think you have a lot of people who are facerolling them while overgeared and then not adjusting strats when they have a party who can't faceroll it.

[SecsyMancat]

Titan can be done with i57 gear, groups were clearing it in swimsuits i70 and relics which averages out to exactly i57. Min requirement is about 3200hp, (again close to i57+food) the problem is Duty Finder does not check for experience level, and it gives you 2 tanks for a 1 tank fight. Many many players can easily (with practice) survive this fight without eating a single landslide, bomb, or weights. It's scripted so all that really leaves to worry about is healing stomps/mountain buster/removing debuffs

[bob13bob]

Can you link to it?

If your'e talking about the youtube video (which I can find), it doesn't apply here.
1. that video is done pre-dps nerfs
2. that video is done with 1 tank which is huge advantage vs 2 tank comps, impossible in DF which my post specifically addresses. I dont' think premades have ilvl requirements regardless.

They are most likely on on a voice server, with ilvl gear allocation perfectly distributed to mainhand/shield where you get the most bang/buck ilvl. Also premade had the freedom for correct group composition.

Unless you can point to a group that's done it i57, even premade, with 2 tanks; I think ilvl min needs to be raised.

[saber_alter]

for non-premades...it would be difficult but doable...maybe.


you would have to be stupidly lucky with DF.

[Stalkster]

ilv57 DF titan hm is kinda low imo.
Did a DF titan today on drg and got a mnk with DL armor/NQ48-49 waist+accessory+weapon doing 83dps. Which put him at ilv58.

[Kocrachon]

So your saying they need ot make dungeons so that a group of new players cannot accomplish it?

[SecsyMancat]

You don't need voice chat for vent, if you're dead at i57 it's due to not dodging, not lack of coordination, also that's a min i57 not everyone quing in is going to be i57. Personally I would never duty finder Titan HM anyways, PF it, set your own ilevel limit and if it's a serious clear run, not a training run, enforce competence and replace incompetence. That advice aside it has ben cleared in i57 groups