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  1. #31
    Player
    Kallera's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Etoile Kallera
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    1. I think sleep is considerably overpowered compared to the other cc options.

    2. NASCAR PvP combined with people hiding in the side of the door, makes almost every fight look the same.

    3. Crafting. Has little to no place. It's only worth is in lvl50 PvP. And even then it isn't preferred over the allagan. The next tiers up? Oh sorry, those are earned with wolf marks! And complete with materia slots so you can throw our status effect resistance materia(again, bought with wolf marks) which isn't worth chocobo dung.

    This was part of an interview between Yoshi P and USGamer where he mentioned that PvP would help create a "real living economy":

    NY: This is decision that gets really deep into the basic design of an MMORPG. In most MMORPGs, you have crafters and gatherers that support and build the economy of an MMO. The gatherers will gather the material and the crafters will take the materials and they're craft things. But to make sure that gatherer and crafters have things to create, you need content that uses these things. You need to create a demand for those items. By having more content, like PVP, then it will use these items. In a game like this, we don't expect every player to play PVP. We actually think it's going to be around 15 to 20 percent of the userbase. These players, when they really get into PVP, are going to need different types of items and armor than they will need in PVE. For example, when you're fighting a single monster and that monster casts Sleep on you, you won't really need an armor that might cut that Sleep in half, because it's a one-on-one thing and you can wait that 30 seconds. But in a PVP-type of battle you're not going to want to stand there for 30 seconds because that could be the end of you. So, you're going to need a different type of armor, armor that will cut that Sleep versus fighting a regular monster. You're going to need all of these specialty items that won't really help a lot in PVE, but will help in PVP. By creating this new set of items that are only for PVP, it's creating more work for those crafters and gatherers
    One set of armor that's relevant in one match style(and STILL outdated by PvE gear) and items that last 15s is not "more work"! I don't think these are feasible, or used as often in matches as expected, especially since -4secs on a sleep spell is still 26secs you are under. I don't even see food used all that often in the matches I played.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 12-23-2013 at 11:37 PM.

  2. #32
    Player
    Jibs's Avatar
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    Character
    Marcus Trajan
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 100
    PVP is a mess.

    I figured that it would be a mess when I first watched the PVP video SE launched and players were just standing still hitting each other in the video..where they were able to get combos off and so on.

    Did they think this would happen in actual PVP?

    Right now its just a mess of running all over the arena like chickens with no head seeing who can out kite who. Melee players cant even get off decent damaging combos.

    SE really needs to look at other MMO PVP like Guild Wars 1 which had the best PVP in any MMO (NOT GW 2, its PVP is trash) or WoW or something else.

    I knew it would be terrible at launch but this is beyond terrible.

    Ill give it a year or so. The system needs a complete reworking.
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  3. #33
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    KyteStones's Avatar
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    Character
    Vergil Savickas
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
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  4. #34
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    Imapooonu's Avatar
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    Drain Bead
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    Thank you thank you! I overlooked that completely. +1
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  5. #35
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    Mitski's Avatar
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    Character
    Mitski Zahard
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    1. Summoners
    2. Characters should get separate PvP skills for each job, or the reset price should be substantially reduced.
    3. Sleep. It's manageable with gear + food, but players shouldn't have to design their entire armor set to counter a single ability.
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  6. #36
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    Rubieus's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rubieus Amrita
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 81
    1: BLM can sleep 4 times starting at 30 secs. After immune, only takes 30 seconds for them to get sleep 30 secs again.

    2: Stuns are short ranged and are only 6 secs max.

    3: Dirty annoying tactics

    A: Names should be based on job, not fresh meat.

    B: Full lalafell party all wearing bright yellow. WTF? You still lose, it's just so annoying.

    C: So called "interrupt: only works if you are a bard as melee + latency means spells dont get interrupted from dps spam. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

  7. #37
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    Karnyboy's Avatar
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    Character
    Sigmund Felsword
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Combat area is too small, I am not a fan of arena pvp personally.

    The curve is too great for new players in PvP, sure the first week was "equal" (as can be expected) but now that some have had mor etime than others to play, well you're just fodder now until you build up marks

    and all the issues stated in the OP I agree with.
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  8. #38
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    Lady_Slashj's Avatar
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    Character
    Lady Slashj
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Im playing alot of PVP and if i have to cut my issues to 3 it would be:

    1: Player positioning Check sucks (gettin hit for 3 seconds after cutting the LoS to an BRD is just stupid)

    2: You should be granted PVP Gear when u join the match (Like a machine equipping the gear for u sequence or something), and u may change the gears materia before matches without having to farm all of these up due to Grinding. And Wolf marks should be there to buy some gimmicks like pets and something like that instead of gear. ( No Gear advantages because PVP is about Skill and not about how much time you put into it )

    3: Respecc Cost.. 5k Wolf marks is just killing the fun
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  9. #39
    Player
    Vennox's Avatar
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    Character
    Onyx Smith
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    1] I haven't tried it yet
    2] I haven't tried it yet
    3] I haven't tried it yet, WHY HAVEN'T I TRIED IT YET!!!!!??!!!
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    Miqo'te

  10. #40
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    Ifervan's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ifervan Empyrean
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    1- It's a crap shoot mini arena with no real skill involved. Sleep/smash smash...sleep/smash smash. We are all just running around like idiots until one side dies.
    (Solution - stick with what you know PVP is Not for FF)

    2- Takes FOREVER to get enough to spend on gear if you didn't start on day one you will be left behind; this will die in 1 months time where new people will not be able to join in without big frustrations.
    (Solution - Starter Sets that can be acquired with less investment to get you going)

    3- Timer at start far too long, no need for strategy planning see complaint #1.
    (Solution - 30 seconds is enough, some fights last shorter than the wait)

    Should never offer a complaint without offering a solution. :-)
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