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    Eravel's Avatar
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    Eravel Highwind
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 50

    Still no plans for a token system for primal drops?

    So I beat the good king earlier today and, as luck would have it, the mogfork drops. Now I'm a bit of a collector, and I really wanted to take it as I love having 'the complete set' and it would mean I only need Ifrit's harpoon to have 4/4, but straight away the tank (relic zenith WAR) launches into a guilt trip about how bad a person I am for putting a need down on some pixels, because ''I have a DRG and I need it and you've got Zenith blah blah etc.'' I didn't want to be an a-hole about it, he may really have needed the weapon after all, so after a bit of an internal debate I left the instance and let him and the SCH roll for it between them. I regretted it immediately, but that's beside the point.

    I still really want to get the weapon at some stage, but I would like a way of doing it without taking it from someone else who may/may not actually need it. I would especially like a way of doing it which doesn't end up in people taking hissy fits because I've got zenith and they want it instead.

    To that end I ask you, where is the token system? I didn't play v1.0 but I know it had one in place. Why was it removed? Hell, I would even spend phylo/myth tomes on it if it meant not having to repeat a primal over and over again until I get a party where nobody else wants the drop I want just so that I can take it if it drops without them trying to guilt me into feeling like I killed a puppy. From another angle, how is it fair for the unlucky ones among us who want a primal weapon but can't get it to drop regardless of having beat the respective primal more times than they can count? I would love to get a decent answer on this.
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    Ryans Tardis
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 53
    I'm also a spear collector and I've had similar concerns until I remembered they give out relics so I shouldn't worry about getting a lvl 60 weapon for vanity reasons.
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    Roscoe Ludovico
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Was his DRG in the fight? No? Then his DRG can go suck a ****.

    You beat the fight on a specific class, need vs. greed is based on this.

    A little off topic, but besides that, I don't really like the idea of making it easier for someone that fate ground a job to 50, learning nothing about it, also getting good gear immediately because they got drops on another job. Several times I have picked up a pug to fill a group thinking they must know their class reasonably well due to gear, only to find out they hit 50 an hour ago and earned that gear with another class.
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    C'mohn Nunh
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 60
    You can collect Rowena Tokens for I90 'Token' Weapons. You can set a Party Finder for Farming an instance for items.
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    There is no token system because the weapons are 100% drop, unlike in 1.0 where you could get nothing.

    they had a token system in 1.0, also garuda in 1.0 had a guaranteed rate.
    the token system was used to offset the fact that weapons had a low drop rate. In ARR you get a weapon every time, and these battles are 5-10 minutes in length without the 15 minute wait time that was in 1.0.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 12-23-2013 at 10:21 AM.

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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Sargatanas
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    they had a token system in 1.0, also garuda in 1.0 had a guaranteed rate.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    they had a token system in 1.0, also garuda in 1.0 had a guaranteed rate.
    For tokens, not for weapons. This is what Al meant. Since weapons ALWAYS drop, there will be no token system. They've even said as much.
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    For tokens, not for weapons. This is what Al meant. Since weapons ALWAYS drop, there will be no token system. They've even said as much.
    token is a token, and theres was in 1.0
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    Lasdor Edenholt
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    OP, if he wanted to have higher chances on the drop he should have queued as DRG. I'm quite sure he would have said the same whatever the dropped weapon was. I wanted to get garuda bow for my bard, I faced the long queue for DD's so I'd be able to need on it. It's for for me and for the others. Next time don't give in.
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    Teigar Whyteblade
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    If you want to get weapons for alt jobs without a hassle weapon farm with your FC

    If I was you I would have just rolled need.
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