Wat you miss when abandoning leves

[RathSkybreaker]

It's not astronomically higher. Without failing you usually get 45-70k sp a rotation. With failing it's usually 65-80. It skews the average up by about 17k sp a week, ignoring surplus which failing leves pushes you into. There's an automatic buffer. Youll still hit surplus if you don't fail leves, and if you hit surplus, I just suggest not insisting on pushing that 30% sp loss higher.

My guess is that faction gear is going to be heavily materia'able. It has insanely large requirements, rarely is won with those requirements, is rank 50, and requires multiple people.

Right now the faction gear is lol. I don't think it will be like that for much longer.

I hope your right.. if they make the templar's gear up-gradable, similar to the vintage stuff, MAYBE it would be worth getting :P atm no.. not really I'd rather go play minecraft, in which case i'd rather play starcraft.

[Dubont]

you don't miss anything important because you can always just complete that leve next time you have doubles.

[CptGrimlock]

I tend to keep dunesfolk,ACU,raveries and levinshower,I try to only get blade and shield leves with my remainigs 4 spots,and double leves help,finish one then fail the other.Anyway I think that way keeps it pretty balanced but truth be told its all up to your individual playing style.No use getting mad over something you cant controll.

[Sigmakan]

You should check out a Hoary Toads in Iron Lake. Its like a poor-man's Dunesfolk. Gives better SP than Cracked Up

[RathSkybreaker]

From what I hear necrologos inferno is good as well though I forget the range for it. I've done it once or twice but it's in Limsa, and I'm usually in ul'dah with low anima..

[Sigmakan]

From what I hear necrologos inferno is good as well though I forget the range for it. I've done it once or twice but it's in Limsa, and I'm usually in ul'dah with low anima..

Its similar to Levinshower. Those R30 leves arent bad, but the R40s blow them away.

[Vackashken]

Astronomically higher in the sense of efficiency. You get 8 people in a group, all leve linking and its absurd amounts of SP in a very short amount of time. The whole thing is absurd no matter which way you cut it. I hope, again I say, they take that junk out because its a cancer in this game.

[Sigmakan]

Astronomically higher in the sense of efficiency. You get 8 people in a group, all leve linking and its absurd amounts of SP in a very short amount of time. The whole thing is absurd no matter which way you cut it. I hope, again I say, they take that junk out because its a cancer in this game.

The whole thing is absurd?

Would you have an issue if you could renew the same leve if you successfully completed it? That would give even more SP! Or is the whole concept of getting lots of SP absurd to you?

Your loss!

[Dubont]

The whole thing is absurd?

Would you have an issue if you could renew the same leve if you successfully completed it? That would give even more SP! Or is the whole concept of getting lots of SP absurd to you?

Your loss!

leves are absurd. You should have to grind on mobs just like in every other FF game. This easy mode is bullcrap.

[Physic]

leves are absurd. You should have to grind on mobs just like in every other FF game. This easy mode is bullcrap.

only ff where you had to grind is ffxi, every other ffxi you would get enough exp just walking to the boss and fighting it to beat the game. For some of the extra stuff you had to grind.

I do agree leves as the best sp overall is not too good for the game itself. people dont touch 90% of the game.