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    i guess as a mage not having the faction points to get my harley gear is a pretty big deal. you also give up your guild marks so you take tons longer to get the nice skills that are actually bought. i mean it's up to the individual, but what i give up with a 50 class is alot. i can go spend 5mil on the hat, 12 mil on the pants, and 15 mil on the acton if i want, but that is a 32 million gl tradeoff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    i guess as a mage not having the faction points to get my harley gear is a pretty big deal. you also give up your guild marks so you take tons longer to get the nice skills that are actually bought. i mean it's up to the individual, but what i give up with a 50 class is alot. i can go spend 5mil on the hat, 12 mil on the pants, and 15 mil on the acton if i want, but that is a 32 million gl tradeoff.

    horn and hand leves seem like a pretty good way to build up guild marks.
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    Rau Berlioz
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    i guess as a mage not having the faction points to get my harley gear is a pretty big deal. you also give up your guild marks so you take tons longer to get the nice skills that are actually bought. i mean it's up to the individual, but what i give up with a 50 class is alot. i can go spend 5mil on the hat, 12 mil on the pants, and 15 mil on the acton if i want, but that is a 32 million gl tradeoff.

    Wow. your server is ****ed up.

    On Rab each piece is only 5million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
    Wow. your server is ****ed up.

    On Rab each piece is only 5million.
    very low population server atm. we lost 99% of our playerbase between november and january. i have a few friends with other characters on other servers as well as this one and they talk about the price difference between them. i just have too much time invested in my character to leave and go to another server with a higher population.
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    yeah first time through your special mission leves is 600 faction points per line (3 or 4 lines aside from horn and hand I believe) after that it is 400 points per NM faction leve. These are the only leves you can get the items that allows you to obtain the Faction NM gear like mentioned above. Also gil and other rewards that the leve you abandon may reward.
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    The biggest threat to this game is abandoning leves. Its ridiculously toxic to the game because getting to 50 is easy beyond comparison.
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    Xatsh Vei
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    White Mage Lv 90
    You lose the following:

    1) Guild Marks (Job Abilities... chances are more will be added, so if you have like 2000 and some new say Advanced job ability cost 30000 marks or something... yea you will be screwing yourself for awhile)
    2) Faction Credit (Several of the best pieces in the game for certain jobs drop off those, and chances are this system will be expanded on later, which could cause issues later on if you have no credits)
    3) Bonuses to Gil and Mark for doing leves in multiple regions (1 star bonus vs 2)

    You gain:
    1) Much higher sp/hr
    2) More monatany.... seriously doing the same 6-8 leves every reset every month is boring as all get out
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    Player Vackashken's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    1) Much higher sp/hr
    2) More monatany.... seriously doing the same 6-8 leves every reset every month is boring as all get out
    By higher he means astronomically higher SP. Secondly I agree 100% but lets be honest, people abuse this avenue like you wouldn't believe. Hell, there is an LS on my server that religiously does this churning out people with 50 jobs who don't know how to play them. Again, the leve fail absurdity needs to be taken out of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    By higher he means astronomically higher SP. Secondly I agree 100% but lets be honest, people abuse this avenue like you wouldn't believe. Hell, there is an LS on my server that religiously does this churning out people with 50 jobs who don't know how to play them. Again, the leve fail absurdity needs to be taken out of the game.
    hmmm astronomically higher? let's see if you run the same leve twice and a mob gives 100 sp per kill you get 100 sp for the first run and 100 for the second run for 200 total. if you run it linked with another you get 100 + 60, but have no second run. by linking you actually lose sp overall, but it makes running leves more time efficient than running 64 individual leves with an 8 person party.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    horn and hand leves seem like a pretty good way to build up guild marks.
    not if you fail all your leves. even if you run the "big 6" and run 2 others that is gaining guild marks at 1/4 of the time as others so, yes, you are giving them up. this was about the failing leves and what do you give up. if you have guild marks on a leve and fail it then you do not get them.
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    Last edited by darkstarpoet1; 06-11-2011 at 01:51 AM.


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    Personally, there's not much satisfying about completing a leve I've done about 200 times already. The SP is a far better reward to me than marks or another umbral moraine. To me the question should be what am I missing out on by NOT failing leves. The answer to that would be the fun of using that class to farm mats for NM gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vackashken View Post
    By higher he means astronomically higher SP. Secondly I agree 100% but lets be honest, people abuse this avenue like you wouldn't believe. Hell, there is an LS on my server that religiously does this churning out people with 50 jobs who don't know how to play them. Again, the leve fail absurdity needs to be taken out of the game.
    I assume you are talking about Abaddon, hell, of course you are. How would you know if our members know how to play our classes or not? You never party up with us. You just want to find an excuse to hate on the largest LS on the server, but really you should think before you open your mouth.
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