Thread: Gear Choice SCH Post 2.1

Originally Posted by Ferocious

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Just, no. Yes penta Astral is nice if you need the HP but losing 4 MND is just not worth it UNLESS you need the HP from it instead. Also SS does beat PIE solely because SS has an actual value and PIE does not, PIE is only needed for higher aetherflows where as SS does contribute to GCD(you need TONS of it to make notice tho).


Also, piety is not completely useless, the more PIE you have the more MP you gain back from Aetherflow btw. But yes BiS ring becomes Vortex, you gain DET from it and Spell Speed. Yes SS ain't that great right now tho but 11 DET > 8 DET since you don't really need that PIE. Also Vortex can be easier to obtain for some people.

Originally Posted by Ferocious

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Just NO. 12 Crit is like nothing, yes they gain higher shields off critting but you still need to heal too, your pet still needs to heal aswell which will be effected by DET. No I'm not saying DET is better but the values of the MND & extra stats on the ring will outway the 12 crit you get on it. You need to remember crit is subject to range where as DET is not. Yes you are giving shields to people but you are also healing them too. Dropping main stat for 2ndary stats is just not worth it.

Also lol at saying Vanya head. Some "expert". Your most important stat is MND and then Crit, then Det, then LolSS. The higher your MND is the higher the crit would be, crit only highers the chance to crit, its still your MND that gives you the high heal.

Originally Posted by Ferocious

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Oh look here come the insults because you have nothing else better to say. The point is, you are supposed to be using succor and physick too on SCH not just using Adlo and going afk. You know you ain't just dropping 4 MND tho are you, you are dropping 13 MND total. Fact of the matter is, MND does not go 1:1 with any other stat, you need something like 4+ crit just to make up for 1 single MND. So unless you gain something like 52+ crit then it is not worth it.

Going BiS right now will leave you with 486 MND(Seems off from the website for some reason, probs misses allocated), 523 Crit 259 DET vs your BiS where you gain 41 crit but lose 13 MND & 14 DET (FYI DET has a higher value than Crit anyways, not saying you should focus DET tho since #1 prio after MND is crit.). Yes you crit slightly more and I mean very very slightly but 1) Your shields are going to be smaller than mine and 2) Your overall general healing is going to be tons lower than mine. 13 MND is a hell of a lot, it's just like saying let's just walk around with 1 of our accessory slots empty, because MND gives us no benefit, it's silly and ignorant. If you know how to play SCH it don't matter if you are shielding, curing to help out the WHM, curing other PTs in CT, raising people etc you will never run out of MP. Of course you don't run out of MP if all you do is throw 1 adlo for the crit and then do nothing.

So not only are you completely healing a ton less than me, so is your pet who gives you a ton of healing done also, which btw your pet will be curing tons lower than mine. So basically you sacrifice a ton of curing just to crit every now and again? Which btw is totally subject to RNG also. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE me tons more crit, but to sacrifice your main stat just for a chance to crit that little bit more is far from right.

Originally Posted by Ferocious

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16 Crit (thus 1%) does not guarantee 1 crit every 10 heals. It says that you can expect 1 crit heal every 100 heals (16 gives 1%) probabilistically, but gambler's fallacy states that 99 non-crit does not mean the next will crit guaranteed. This is not how probability works.

Assuming the max possible crit (around 550 for 20%) with mind at 488 and det at 302 (this is more than you can actually have with full crit) with Allagan book, you will have a 783 Adloquium heal. At crit, that would be 1174 crit heal. This results in 2350 crit shield. You can expect, over 250 heals, with 20% crit, to have approximately 4 crit Adlos. The more mind and det you lose, the lower the Adloquium heal will be. That will cause the crit heal and then the crit shield to be lower.

To illustrate, with this 302 det, you have 783 heal, 1174 crit heal, and 2350 galvanize shield.

At the best crit gearing, you'll have an average of 761 average healed.

If you drop to 483 mind but 566 crit and 236 Det, you'll see your heals fall to 757 adlo heal resulting in the same amount of crit chance (4 every 100 expected) with a 1136 crit heal and 2271 galvanize shield.

See that dropping just 3 mind, you lose 4 healed. That'll ripple down every single heal. For contrast, if you have a full det gearing (488 mind, 444 crit, 317 det) then you can expect your adlo to be 784 healed average, 1176 crit heal 2352 crit adlo shield. Much more than crit, but you'll see these crits roughly 12% of the time--8% less.

Notice, not a single one of these heals is 3-4k on their own. To reach that number, I'd have to heal someone with Fey Illumination and Mantra up at the least AND manage to get a crit. You will not get 3-4k galvanize shields on your own.

Dropping 13 mind, thus 26 HP off every heal, will result in your Physick, Adloquium, and Succor in ALL being lower resulting in your total healed dropping and your HPS dropping. Mind is, and always will be, larger than Crit.