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    kujoestars's Avatar
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    Still not at ShB yet, but I’ve been poking a bit on the lore for the Gwiber mounts out of curiosity and the description on the Fey Gwiber described them as an attempt to “recreate the fantastical beast known as a dragon”, which is making the possibility that we’ve had dragons poking around the First more plausible. Obviously, it’s possible races just came up with dragons independently just like how many wildly different irl cultures independently came up with their own overlapping concepts of dragons. But given how much the Gwibers all look actual dragons, including the fae gwiber whose origins are from a Ronkan sorcerer, it seems like they based in reality.

    Which means Auri being possibly descended from dragons still perfectly on the table. Time flows differently in each Shard, and for all we know, the Drahn came into being because some member of the First Brood could have messed around there at some point. We still have two members (Azdaja and Vrtra) unaccounted for, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kujoestars View Post
    Still not at ShB yet, but I’ve been poking a bit on the lore for the Gwiber mounts out of curiosity and the description on the Fey Gwiber described them as an attempt to “recreate the fantastical beast known as a dragon”, which is making the possibility that we’ve had dragons poking around the First more plausible. Obviously, it’s possible races just came up with dragons independently just like how many wildly different irl cultures independently came up with their own overlapping concepts of dragons. But given how much the Gwibers all look actual dragons, including the fae gwiber whose origins are from a Ronkan sorcerer, it seems like they based in reality.

    Which means Auri being possibly descended from dragons still perfectly on the table. Time flows differently in each Shard, and for all we know, the Drahn came into being because some member of the First Brood could have messed around there at some point. We still have two members (Azdaja and Vrtra) unaccounted for, after all.
    I can't remember how it was brought up, but it was suggested that Au Ra came about due to Allagan meddling with and making chimeras (possibly with dragons?). I'll have to find where this was talked about it was super interesting.
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by kujoestars View Post
    Still not at ShB yet, but I’ve been poking a bit on the lore for the Gwiber mounts out of curiosity and the description on the Fey Gwiber described them as an attempt to “recreate the fantastical beast known as a dragon”, which is making the possibility that we’ve had dragons poking around the First more plausible. Obviously, it’s possible races just came up with dragons independently just like how many wildly different irl cultures independently came up with their own overlapping concepts of dragons. But given how much the Gwibers all look actual dragons, including the fae gwiber whose origins are from a Ronkan sorcerer, it seems like they based in reality.

    Which means Auri being possibly descended from dragons still perfectly on the table. Time flows differently in each Shard, and for all we know, the Drahn came into being because some member of the First Brood could have messed around there at some point. We still have two members (Azdaja and Vrtra) unaccounted for, after all.
    The writers have put into place to say that au ra are not related to dragons. They've already mentioned the horns being used for different things and au ra having exaggerated sexual dimorphism where instead dragons have a purely aesthetic gender and are capable of reproducing asexually (and also hatch from eggs). Also I don't remember the fae gwiber being associated with the Ronkan sorcerer. Amaro were created by a Ronkan sorcerer, but those are a different thing entirely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cereza View Post
    I can't remember how it was brought up, but it was suggested that Au Ra came about due to Allagan meddling with and making chimeras (possibly with dragons?). I'll have to find where this was talked about it was super interesting.
    I don't remember this being suggested anywhere, but this would not be possible on the First. To our knowledge the Allagans had no access to it.

    It's more likely that au ra are their own thing that popped into existence the same way as the other races rather than have a convoluted origin story. The mental gymnastics needed to rectify a draconic or Allagan origin that also works in other realities where neither exist doesn't justify that story.
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  5. 03-23-2020 06:38 AM