PvP: Sleep and win!

[Addicted]

Nah we slept your healer.
They purified?
Oh, I just insta-sleept them again with the INSTANT BLM SLEEP PVP ACTION.

Then we wreck your DD.

GG

You can do that once every minute. If the BLM starts with Swiftcast - Sleep, Purify the sleep. If he tries to cast it again, he has to Surecast - Sleep and if your team is mildly competent, they will just stun that. If he starts with a non-swiftcasted sleep, just LoS the sleep and the surecast went to waste. If he Swiftcasts after the Surecast, Purify and wreck him. A BLM is incredibly squishy and will go down before Swiftcast is up again, especially if someone else is pressuring their healer.

Hell, even if you get slept again for 15 seconds, and then again for 6, I have noticed that usually isn't even enough to burst down a single person that's intent on running away.

[DoctorMog]

I rest my Case.
Seriously tho,there is a counter strat for everything.Makes ya seem amateurish to come to a forum complain about something when you havent fully experimented on solitions.Change tactics or Start melding

Well, my win rate is ~80%

So I just went BLM and started sleeping everyone.
Havent lost since,.

Disregard this thread.

Found our winning strat.

[Edellis]

sleep complains are alot like fireball spam complaints in fighting games.

[Starlord]

Esuna sleep. Each time you try to sleep in succession, the more the person gets resistant to it till eventually "immune" to it.

[DoctorMog]

Esuna sleep. Each time you try to sleep in succession, the more the person gets resistant to it till eventually "immune" to it.

Nevermind ^.^

[Airget]

Sleep timers are to high for PVP, 30 seconds of being frozen followed by 15, followed by 6 when you are the only one capable of doing anything about it isn't really good. You can't cross-class esuna and the one for SCH is only for their job so in a 4v4 with 2 DD, 1 tank and 1 healer, the only capable of removing other units enfeebles is the healer. Eliminate the healer's ability to act and you can pretty much terrorize the rest of the party.

Another simple fix would be to add a pvp action that works like esuna/leech to allow the DD or tank to remove enfeebles on the target so that sleep spamming woudln't be an issue.

Or they just limit sleep effect to a 15/10/5 seconds duration, cutting it in half be more than enough to help out since pvp itself is a fast paced event, the fights don't last longer than 5-10 minutes for the most part so if you are able to knock a person out for nearly a minute it does influence the chances of winning.

[Ryans]

Reduces the timer on sleep. Not resists the sleep spell.

30 second sleep reduced to 20.

Still owned your party.

Do we know how much sleep resistance llowers the duration. You can get 24 sleep resistance and if its a 1:1 ratio that is 6 seconds for a full strength sleep. Pop purify and the next sleep will be 3 seconds. Sleep would basically be useless at that point.

[Ricky]

Yeah. 1 Purify isn't enough.

Edit: Nevermind. Taking advantage of this before it's nerfed.

Lightning hairstyle is a handicap, you better go change that

[Krystalynn]

sleep complains are alot like fireball spam complaints in fighting games.

Untrue, fireballs in street fighter have plenty of counterplay. The animation, the actual space of the arena, and abilities that outright counter it, allow the player to go through or over it, or reflect it.

There isn't anywhere near this level of counterplay in the game currently. Smelling Salts do not function, and much of the CP has been relegated to passive abilities gained through pvp and the possibility of stat melding or resistance potion drinking. Other than that the only active counterplay to sleep is the same counterplay applied to any other spell in the game, which is limited, and often on extreme cooldowns or subject to diminishing returns. Something you won't see in fighting games.

[Wolf_Gang]

Best comps I've seen:

BLM SMN WHM PLD - So much CC

WAR SCH SMN BRD - ridiculous burst.