iLvl Requirement for Garuda Extreme is way to low.

[Ryios]

iLvl 61 is the current requirement. This is way to low. Someone could show up with one piece of CT gear, the rest all ilvl 60 and a level 40 weapon and still qualify for garuda extreme.

If you've done the fight there is an obvious DPS check with spiney plume stacks.

Imo it should be ilvl 75 at the lowest.

[Ri_ri]

61 is for Ultima.
Extreme Garuda is item level 65.

For people who don't learn the mechanics or Revenant Toll shouts that wants to be carried, it is an average of item level 90.

Or you could just provoke the Spiny plume.

[Soulscare]

I'm 71 and I did it easily...

[Harmonium]

Strat > Stuff.

Like i allway see in CT, a full alliance with ilvl 90 wipe, because they do bad thing and are absolutely blind...

While my alliance full of reroll full amdapor stuff, do very well, because when you do a perfect fight the stuff doesn't matter, but when you do lot of error, the stuff make you take one or two error.

Garuda is not hard, this is a fight you must learn, you will maybe wipe 5 - 10 times, and then you will farm her easy. That what i like, try to understand the mechanic of fight.

[Ryios]

Provking the spiney plume isn't the problem, of course I provoke it. She doesn't jump before I get to 3 stacks, so the MT has to provoke it, and she still doesn't jump before he get's the 3 stacks etc etc etc.... Thus a problem. 65 is to low. 71 would be fine.

That are they should require you to have an il90 weapon on to do it.

Anyone that didn't was probably in a group were everyone else was.

Or someone could prove me wrong. Get a full group with all il65 exactly, and kill her. Stream it, youtube it.

I can do the fight fine, not the problem, I know we'll kill her easily, almost did already. I'm just tired of queing int he DF and seeing so crap gear assortments.

It's like people are wearing the wrong gear on purpose just to push their ilevel high enough to que. E.g. I saw a blm the other day wearing drg ring and a tank ring (darklight all classes) just so his gear score would be over il65

[Allyrion]

I'm pretty sure minimum ilvl is just the level you are allowed to carry someone.
It's a just bar to even enter the instance rather than a recommended level.

I'm going to quote myself from the HM dungeon thread.
I really feel it's only a barrier so someone with white accessories and AF gear can't be carried through.
I don't think it was ever meant that a full team of ilvl 65 could do it.
Not the general population. Maybe 1% of the top 1%.

[Harmonium]

You know Ryios i can come in garuda EX with full BLM accessory on my SCH. I can come, but i will be useless. When you play in pick up you take the choice to face those situation, that why me i don't want face those situation so make a party before, (mor dhona) or play with friend.

You can realy troll the ilvl duty finder and yes this is a problem who can't be result, because this is the people who make the problem not the game.

[Madoka]

You are supposed to toss the spiny between each tank. Even the fastest kill recorded so far has the tanks tossing the spiny between each other. Spiny is not a DPS check, the sisters are. If you can get past the sisters you can win the fight.

[Ryios]

You need to toss the 2nd spiney plume, the first one you can just hold if dps is fast enough.