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    Zirael_Foxfire's Avatar
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    Vote Kick - some changes are needed

    Vote Kick in it's current form is a nice attempt but few adjustments are necessary. Devs could've looked at other MMOs for inspiration to save people unnecessary stress.

    1) You should not be able to kick if treasure is in pool (that's... obvious)

    2) You should be able to kick during battle (a SMN or SCH can easily pull a boss, get everyone locked out from chamber and wait out until everyone times out)

    3) Kicked person should not be placed back in the same dungeon, from which they were kicked, if they re-queue (lol...)
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    Wobi's Avatar
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    Aria Erabith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael_Foxfire View Post
    Vote Kick in it's current form is a nice attempt but few adjustments are necessary. Devs could've looked at other MMOs for inspiration to save people unnecessary stress.

    1) You should not be able to kick if treasure is in pool (that's... obvious)

    2) You should be able to kick during battle (a SMN or SCH can easily pull a boss, get everyone locked out from chamber and wait out until everyone times out)

    3) Kicked person should not be placed back in the same dungeon, from which they were kicked, if they re-queue (lol...)
    Point of interest regarding #2 they bugged pet enmity again with this update, pets are engaging of their own accord for reasons currently unknown. So if your reasoning for this is based on a pet class that boned your group just felt you should be aware.
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    Just your friendly neighborhood elezen

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    4) You shouldn't be able to kick someone if it's their first time in the dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    4) You shouldn't be able to kick someone if it's their first time in the dungeon.
    Yeah, that'd be a good idea. I was running Prae last night via story DR, and someone tried to boot one of the new guys who was watching the CSes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    Yeah, that'd be a good idea. I was running Prae last night via story DR, and someone tried to boot one of the new guys who was watching the CSes.
    WTF that was so mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    Yeah, that'd be a good idea. I was running Prae last night via story DR, and someone tried to boot one of the new guys who was watching the CSes.
    Yeah, I rouletted into Prae last night and people were fussing at the two new guys for watching cutscenes. :-\ They were mostly nice about it, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Yeah, I rouletted into Prae last night and people were fussing at the two new guys for watching cutscenes. :-\ They were mostly nice about it, but still.
    I've noticed everyone is super nice in dungeons to get commendations (except that one SCH who was griefing us in Ifrit20 and maybe SMN in WP throwing a fit for people not speeding it - check people's gear, you'll know if SR is possible or not).
    I kinda wish you could get some proper glowing iLv90 weapon for like 1000 commendations. The exact opposite of PVP gear, where you are more successful, the more people you kill. I wish truly skillful, beneficial and helpful game play was rewarded with more than a goofy hat and mount reskin.

    Anyways, I digress - SE, please let us purge the scum and protect the innocents! Vote Kick needs some serious work. And soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirael_Foxfire View Post
    Vote Kick in it's current form is a nice attempt but few adjustments are necessary. Devs could've looked at other MMOs for inspiration to save people unnecessary stress.

    1) You should not be able to kick if treasure is in pool (that's... obvious)

    2) You should be able to kick during battle (a SMN or SCH can easily pull a boss, get everyone locked out from chamber and wait out until everyone times out)

    3) Kicked person should not be placed back in the same dungeon, from which they were kicked, if they re-queue (lol...)
    #2 won't work because of #1 when and if it's fixed to where we can't kick if treasure is in play - Gotta wait until the fights over otherwise people could kick towards the end of a boss to keep them from getting treasure.

    #3...really lol this happened!?
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    #3...really lol this happened!?
    *Raises hand* I'll admit to being guilty of #3. Had a Crystal Tower run where everyone was being generally toxic / very rude to eachother. So after a Behemoth whipe, I ran in, hit behemoth, ran out.

    Man, they flipped their lids hard. My party booted me out instantly. However, as a healer, I que'd in-progress and was back in. It was a mild inconvenience at best. Not only that, it made me eligible to give commendations (Not that I would in that scenario.)

    Not to say I was in the right, or anything like that. But it is very easy, and very possible to do. This was also a very kick-happy party, who had kicked 2 DPS and 1 tank so far (1 DPS was kicked for spamming a long macro that he had a joke, one left due to annoyance at the general toxicity, and one tank got booted because.... well, I voted him, and he was being an a-hole.)
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    Nel Artux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    #2 won't work because of #1 when and if it's fixed to where we can't kick if treasure is in play - Gotta wait until the fights over otherwise people could kick towards the end of a boss to keep them from getting treasure.

    #3...really lol this happened!?
    Yes it happened and was quite useful actually, someone had broken gear in CT, he asked to be kicked and came back with repaired gear^^.
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