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    Maurelin Soilanteaux
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    Hello all, first post.
    Sorry, I tried to post this in the Dungeon section but was unable to. Anywho, I have a question on how I should run Dungeons while playing as a Thaumaturge. I have just ran my first Dungeon, Sastasha. Should I not be using Fire2? I love Fire2 as it hits multiple targets at once, but will sometimes pull hate on me. Is it that Fire2 is causing more damage than what the Tanks are doing? Any advice on which spells to use and which ones to not use would be very helpful. Thanks for reading.
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Fire II is typically not a good idea during dungeons for a few reasons. It will be noted that the reason you're taking hate is not because you're doing a lot of damage, but because you're hitting targets the tank is not actively attacking.

    First, hitting multiple targets is actually a bad idea unless your tank asks you to (Some dungeon strategies use AoE attacks, but that's usually just for endgame speedruns). The reason is that it is MUCH easier for the tank to keep enmity on a single target than to keep enmity on all the targets, so focus on the same monster he's focusing on. If your tank is not marking targets, you should try targeting the tank and pressing T to target his target.

    Another reason is that Fire hurts an individual target more than Fire II does. While Fire II does more damage overall, Fire will kill a single member of the pack faster. Less monsters attacking the tank means he survives better, which means the party survives better.

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    Also, another thing to note while I'm discussing enmity mechanics: During some boss fights, minions will be summoned. Even if the tank is only focusing on the main boss, it's your duty (Unless told otherwise) to switch to killing the minions. Usually the minions are tankable by a DPS, so don't worry if they attack you, just keep killing. However, everything else in the dungeon (The boss, and all the little monsters you fight outside of the boss rooms) should only be hitting the tank).
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    Last edited by Urthdigger; 12-21-2013 at 11:33 PM.

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    Thank you Earthdigger. That will help immensely. I ran Sastasha a few times, and only once did the tank mark targets. But thanks for the tip. Clicking on the tank and hitting T to target their target is a great help. Much appreciated. I thought I was doing good by using Fire 2. LOL, guess not.
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    Your time will come where you can spam Fire2 and people will be seeking you out for your AoE spells.

    I cant add anything else to the above post but maybe you should ask the tank to mark targets if they're not doing it. At low level dungeons, some tanks don't realize that they should be doing it.

    +1 commendation for Urthdigger
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    Day I figured that they just don't know to do that yet. Well thanks for the help guys.
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