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    Roaran's Avatar
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    Reading this threas makes me want to unlearn english.
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    Well, one more thing the English and Japanese forums agree on: the Letter from the producer is overdue, and SE's information policy once again sucks just as hard as when Tanaka was in charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post


    I don't want to come down so hard, but we have two (pseudo)separate teams coming up with two completely different strategies of interacting with their consumers
    Interestingly, the same teams also have two completely different strategies for developing the game right now.

    Could that have anything to do with the difference in communication? Of course not, since that would make too much sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Interestingly, the same teams also have two completely different strategies for developing the game right now.

    Could that have anything to do with the difference in communication? Of course not, since that would make too much sense.
    This.

    To put it another way, if FFXI and FFXIV were cars, FFXI is a car that runs great and only needs to be washed every now and then, perhaps replacing an air filter or wiper blades in the process. It's easy to give frequent feedback on general maintenance and detailing. FFXIV, well that's more like a car that is having it's engine rebuilt. It takes a lot longer to accomplish that task, and the wiper blades that everyone is requesting, well they'll just have to consider that when the thing actually runs properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseLallaise View Post
    To put it another way, if FFXI and FFXIV were cars, FFXI is a car that runs great and only needs to be washed every now and then, perhaps replacing an air filter or wiper blades in the process. It's easy to give frequent feedback on general maintenance and detailing. FFXIV, well that's more like a car that is having it's engine rebuilt. It takes a lot longer to accomplish that task, and the wiper blades that everyone is requesting, well they'll just have to consider that when the thing actually runs properly.
    I love this analogy! The wipers are important and will be replaced, but there's no point in replacing the wipers until the damn thing runs
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    They can't update much until the battle system is implemented, then, will we get more frequent updates.
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    "The next version update for FINAL FANTASY XI is currently on track for a mid-July release!"

    Would an update on lodestone similarly saying: The next version update for FINAL FANTASY XIV is currently on track for a mid-June release!" be so hard?
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    Considering they are redoing aspects of the games foundation they already gave a tentative date...in the letters. which was mid-june at the earliest.

    XI can give an exact time frame because they aren't redoing the games foundation when they release updates, they're merely adjusting and adding things.

    The following additions and adjustments will be implemented in the next version update:

    A new exchange NPC for crests and seals will be added.

    Current plans call for allowing players to trade three seals/crests for any one seal/crest of their choice.

    Porter Moogles will be introduced to the following areas:
    Selbina / Mhaura / Rabao / Kazham / Norg / Nashmau / Southern San d’Oria [S] / Bastok Markets [S] / Windurst Waters [S]
    It will become possible to redeem multiple battle trophies at once in the following areas:
    Abyssea – Altepa / Abyssea – Uleguerand / Abyssea - Grauberg
    The latest blurb. Notice how none of this is:

    "We're working on redoing the battle system and adding in a new job system."

    Which do you think would be easier to pin point a completion date?
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    I agree with OP. That post about FFXI's roadmap is just awesome.
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    SacredDawnFC.enjin.com
    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

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    The tone of some of these emails seems to give credit to the FFXI team for a good job on keeping current, but when it comes the the FFXIV team, they blame SE as a whole.

    If FFXIV's problems are a to be laid at the foot of SE as a company, than so are the successes of FFXI.

    If FFXI's successes are the result of a good production team... well..
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