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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunarie View Post
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    So.. basically he's saying he doesn't care about those with a less than optimal connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenL View Post
    So.. basically he's saying he doesn't care about those with a less than optimal connection.
    If NA EU always play high speed connection, then SEA is a monster from outer space come to earth, SEA gamers always play with high ping which is 200~300 ping is consider normal.
    so yeah 3 digit ping is our daily gaming life and only a few able to see 2 digit ping
    in patch 2.1, i must say connection is very smooth and that still with 150~250 ping from my pc playing in JP server
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenL View Post
    So.. basically he's saying he doesn't care about those with a less than optimal connection.
    I am curious about what he considers "optimal connexion".
    I live in a big city, in a country that's amongts the world's most developped as far as high speed Internet goes (far more than the USA, and even more than Canada, apparently), and although I don't have optic fiber, I have standart high speed Internet for here. I have never encountered such a problem in over 10 years of playing MMOs.

    I don't know much about IT, there might be a technical reason outside of SE's influence why I suffer from this problem specifically with this game, and that without this I would enjoy a smooth game experience.
    But I can't help thinking that, considering all this, and considering the number of people in various locations around the world who claim they are suffering from it too, and considering that even some people living near the datacenters in Canada said they suffered from it, too... it looks less likely than the opposite.

    Some people also said they were playing fine with less than optimal equipment.

    Either they lied, the problem is all on the use's end, and SE just made a game that needs incredibly high quality Internet to be played (in which case, the warning "Internet connexion required" is inacurate, and I believe I have been tricked into buying a game that wasn't truthfull about it's technical requirements).
    Or there is a problem on SE's end (in which case this interview is, if not an outright lie, a big mokery taking people for idiots by playing dumb to avoid admitting there is a problem when it's obvious there is).

    Quote Originally Posted by Maplekoya View Post
    Nothing wrong, I had 400+ms in WoW and was forced to use a tunnel to reduce the ping by about 30%.
    Which would make about 280ms?
    Aparently, it should still not be enough to play endgame content, according to this:
    GW: If you’re able to dodge with 3 digit Ping then it’s not fun as a game

    Yoshida: We would need to extend the time players have to dodge. But doing that will make the content super easy, so it’s impossible.
    If you can beat endgame with a 3 digit ping, then that confirms that the speech in this interview is BS.
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    Last edited by Billie21; 12-22-2013 at 04:27 PM.
    5 seconds video collection:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbaqy_rUxys ¤¤ http://youtu.be/PGSnnof--LY?t=4s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/cDdhLy3ZRu4?t=4s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/X8JJ2hwH_fM?t=4m48s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/8mMzkXRERIU?t=3s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/bm_cJxwZRBE?t=2m2s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/sUjwBpOMMNQ?t=3s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/Y42H3RPuZrk?t=5s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/ES2ugI_k6Es?t=1m22s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/zFfu0i89gpI?t=7s ¤¤ http://youtu.be/xqRN--laUiM?t=56s

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/80152-GAMEBREAKING-Ability-moving-objects-delay-and-unresponsiveness-%28affects-everybody%29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    I'll go ahead and say that it boils down to their over reliance on "dodge it or die" mechanics.
    If it didn't came down to "dodge it or die" mechanics, I think most people wouldn't even notice how bad the coding is in this game. I heard FFXI was a lag fest like this one (being in japan and so), but being a slower paced game, it didn't matter.
    It's not just that. Even if every fight wasn't -avoid the red spots on the ground-, watching other players warp around the screen or having ability lag really kills the fun for me.
    It was get battleping etc or quit the game for me. I'm in socal and the latency is terribad here. So now I pay an extra $5 / month to play this game. /thrilled
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billie21 View Post
    If you can beat endgame with a 3 digit ping, then that confirms that the speech in this interview is BS.
    Don't want to sound like a douchebag, but the latency you get in that that GIF in your signature is terrible enough that I doubt it's all on SE's end. I'm using a regular enough internet connection for my area, nothing special, on PS3, using wireless.

    Ive been hit by stuff like that, but i'd have to be leaving the active area within miliseconds of it ending to actually be hit.


    It's really easy to blame a company like this, especially when you can cry "conspiracy" anytime you like. But for gods sake, the latency you're describing has got to be a serious minority.
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    Is it just me? Or the latency this day is really annoying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    It's really easy to blame a company like this, especially when you can cry "conspiracy" anytime you like. But for gods sake, the latency you're describing has got to be a serious minority.
    This is what kills the subscribers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    This is what kills the subscribers.
    Is it really? I guess i'll find out eventually. I doubt it'll bother me that much though honestly. Mostly because I don't think it'll ever get as bad as most people are describing for me. Which is sort of the issue. But playing fighting games, i'm a bit used to the whole "get a better connection or deal with it" mentality. Ideally you'd like it to never get in your way, but such is life.

    *Shrug*
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    The latency issue is still there but as before the fights are still doable as long as you memorize the rotation. I'm in Australia as well and I turn on Pingzapper for Titan, just in case, sometimes I still get hit by shit when I'm obviously out of it because of the latency but more often than not there are no problems at all. Just memorize his rotation and move a little early to reduce the chance of getting hit by something.
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    whut.. i play with 200-300ms and i still able to beat end game what the FUZZ about it.. =.=
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