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    Latency issue in this game...

    is terrible. I have brought the issue of latency before and people said that it's not SEs fault but mine for having bad connection( even though when I play WoW on the US server I have no problems at all) and advised me to use WTFast to improve it. WTFast gives me 25%-30% improvement yet I still get hit by Titan's ability when I run out, same goes for other instance bosses abilities. When I'm fighting mobs out in the open when doing quests I've noticed that I can dodge red stuff somewhat better. What is it that SE is doing wrong compared to WoW that so many people experience problems with the latency in this game?
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    I used to have the same problem until I zoomed out my camera.

    Thanks, Square Enix!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vantwan View Post
    I used to have the same problem until I zoomed out my camera.

    Thanks, Square Enix!
    Yeah.. I wish that worked for me as well.
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    If things like WTFast and battleping help than the latency problems isn't caused SE servers but caused by one of the hops your connection takes to get to the SE servers.
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    FFXIV uses a different netcode structure than other MMOs. Basically what happens in other MMOs is your client can see whether you were in an AOE or not and tell immediately when you took damage. SE went with the server being in charge. So what you end up with is:

    Boss starts AOE on server end
    You see AOE on client end and start to move
    AOE cast ends server side and damage is sent out

    Now, whether the whole "you moved" part gets back to the server before the server ends the AOE and calculates damage depends on latency and packetloss. In one of the interviews that Yoshi did recently (available on Reinhart's translation thread), it was implied that playing with a "3 digit ping" wasn't good. This would mean you need to be under 100 ms to not see any sort of delay, with very little packet loss.

    Most people in the US/EU aren't going to have that steadily, and if you get into the higher range for latency it's going to start being difficult, if not impossible for you to dodge. Changing their netcode would involve lots of time and money, and unless they lose a bunch of subs to that issue, I don't see it happening. Instead they like to blame player's networks it seems (again, implied from most recent interview). Part of that probably has to do with Japan having a much different (better) internet infrastructure as a country. I imagine that anyone getting over 100ms ping there is a rarity, here it's common.

    All of that being said, with the 2.1 patch they did try and help it along by increasing the positional update interval to .1 seconds. I don't believe it's possible to get it any faster than that realistically. If you're still unable to dodge, then endgame may not be for you in FFXIV :/ Yoshi said in the interview that people who want to do the endgame stuff and hard content need to have excellent setups, which in this case also means internet connection and hops.
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    With WTFast I usually get 150ms ping, and I'm from Australia. You might want to play around with WTFast settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lii View Post
    If things like WTFast and battleping help than the latency problems isn't caused SE servers but caused by one of the hops your connection takes to get to the SE servers.
    this and people keep ignore this
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    What is WTFast? Is that a program or something?
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    SO you have the issue on titan but not anywhere else?

    You do realise that with titan you need to learn his rotation and move in advance of time?

    So many people get caught by weight of the land because they move when they see the plume and not in advance of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    What is WTFast? Is that a program or something?
    WTFast and Battleping use to reduce lag
    basically and correct me if i wrong,its reduce the number of hub your connection go to server WHICH the number of hub is depend on your ISP
    those program will reroute the connection to go with less hub which result less ping

    lets just say there 2 plane both go to tokyo from same airport but 1 plane need to stop 10 times on the way and the other plane only need make 3 stop on the way to tokyo
    well,the plane that make 3 stop will arrive faster

    sorry for bad/weird english
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