Premade PVP need to have their OWN queue

[Neofirefly]

This is an issue.. teams are trying to gain an advantage against randoms. This is the reason they added the premade category in the first place. ATM people are teaming 3 to try and gain an advantage in lvl 50 pvp. And grouping 4 for the lower lvl pvps.

I am guessing they don't like losing against other 4 man groups that use the same communication they use so they runaway from other premades hoping to fight randoms.

Its to the point I see people shouting to make 3 man premades out of fear of fighting other 4mans and hoping for easy wins against randoms.

Do i want to join your scared 3man? Thanks for the offer but i'll have to pass!!

[PSxpert2011]

So what is the arena like? Is it an actual area you can explore? Do you just walk in and it's free for all or is it virtually just a duty-finder mechanic?

I had a vision stadium/ coliseum where it's free-for-all, last man standing wins,lol!

[Alhanelem]

i can tell you for a fact that is not true.

we run a 4 man group in PVP lvl 40 and 50.

we're always against both random groups of people from different servers and pre formed parties like ours.

You are only going to encounter randoms in the lv40 runs. You cannot queue for lv50 vs randoms as a 4 man party.

So what is the arena like? Is it an actual area you can explore? Do you just walk in and it's free for all or is it virtually just a duty-finder mechanic?

I had a vision stadium/ coliseum where it's free-for-all, last man standing wins,lol!

it's last team standing, and no, it's not an open area. DF only.

[Jyoeru]

Nope. Works as intended.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

there are so many rude people on this forum spouting BS at every thread, I agree with the OP and anyone that can't see this is clearly a issue is just trying to ride the gravy train to get easy points on team's that clearly stand no chance against them and shouldn't be matched against them in the first place!

I grinded solo que at lvl50 to get the gear I do have taking wins and losses (no complaint's) and to my experience now at rank 15 pvp every premade group of 3 we faced was significantly harder to deal with (this doesn't mean unbeatable).

still fact remains a premade should be of 2 or 4 ppl in lvl40 or lvl50 pvp (2 at 40 and 4 at 50) with the ability to solo que for any!

stop bashing ppl for posting threads that make sense and should be considered because you want to keep steamrolling under geared players for easy points!

[Jyoeru]

there are so many rude people on this forum spouting BS at every thread, I agree with the OP and anyone that can't see this is clearly a issue is just trying to ride the gravy train to get easy points on team's that clearly stand no chance against them and shouldn't be matched against them in the first place!

I grinded solo que at lvl50 to get the gear I do have taking wins and losses (no complaint's) and to my experience now at rank 15 pvp every premade group of 3 we faced was significantly harder to deal with (this doesn't mean unbeatable).

still fact remains a premade should be of 2 or 4 ppl in lvl40 or lvl50 pvp (2 at 40 and 4 at 50) with the ability to solo que for any!

stop bashing ppl for posting threads that make sense and should be considered because you want to keep steamrolling under geared players for easy points!

So many assumptions you make. I run solo or with a buddy when I run. I ran in a 3's group and we lost every single fight because we were trying to teach a healer how to PVP... and the fights we lost to were to solo Q runners.

IF and only IF there was no requirement for a tank and a healer, this whole idea might work. But as it stands, all it will do is make 5 minute queues turn into 1 hour queues for people like me who want to play with a friend. And, as Ten has pointed out before, there would be a failsafe that would put those people back into your queue anyway to negate the long waits.

The. Idea. Just. Does. Not. Work. And. Doesn't. Need. To. Be. Implemented. Because. You. Can. Run. With. Friends. If. You. Want. To.

That's all

[Jyoeru]

I would also like to point out that the complaint of 3m premade injustice is quite a farce on the grounds that it's 3 "coordinated" people vs. 4 "uncoordinated" people. Let's say this is the case. Let's say they make it so only people who solo Q end up in a solo Q pvp match. What then do you propose we do about the PVP trolls (like me) who are better than the average people and can take out 3 inexperienced people with little effort? Those people will be in your Q by the gazillions. The point is, PVP is nearly impossible to balance, and this solution isn't much of a solution due to the queue time punishment premades face, or the injustice solo Q'ers face when dealing with premades--which they will still face because the queue times will have to be balanced.

People in this thread complaining about the current state of PVP are living in some type of inconsolable utopian dream for which there are no provisions to making their reality come true. Further, PVP in this game is a week old. Devs need time to analyze data to determine the best direction to take PVP. It is highly arrogant for any of us, utilizing only our personal observations, to think we have any solution to a problem. None of us are privy to enough data to see what the issues are, and what the solutions could be. Period.

Just chill out and give it a month or two. If you don't like PVP as it is, either form a premade, or take a break from it, and kill cute moogles.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

The. Idea. Just. Does. Not. Work. And. Doesn't. Need. To. Be. Implemented. Because. You. Can. Run. With. Friends. If. You. Want. To.

That's all

this. was. not. needed. and. just. shows. that. you. are. one. of. the. aforementioned. people. in. this. forum. ( if your doing this for effect you should stop, you look childish not funny or cute)

now to my "assumption's" I seem to have made according to you, I clearly stated that premade GROUPS OF 3 (try this next time you want to stress writing) I faced were "significantly harder to deal with (this doesn't mean unbeatable)." guess you missed that!

I will give you credit as I should have stated that these pre-made's of three have all been fully geared for pvp as opposed to me being the only geared pvp player at times in my random's. (let me be more specific for you as to not make assumptions -_-) nearly 25% of the time I was the only geared pvp player in my random group.

im sorry your experience was bad but mine has my at a 100% win ratio with a 3 premade gear ready group against random's of no gear lvl. we steamrolled them all! and I as a healer have no idea what you would be teaching another healer in PVP? how to Run? how to spot heal? jump maybe? oh I know how to remove de buffs from party members!

-_- No sthap please

so are you just responding to my post to try to look cool? cause you are going need a lot more than that smile emote face my friend.

[Jyoeru]

this. was. not. needed. and. just. shows. that. you. are. one. of. the. aforementioned. people. in. this. forum. ( if your doing this for effect you should stop, you look childish not funny or cute)

now to my "assumption's" I seem to have made according to you, I clearly stated that premade GROUPS OF 3 (try this next time you want to stress writing) I faced were "significantly harder to deal with (this doesn't mean unbeatable)." guess you missed that!

I will give you credit as I should have stated that these pre-made's of three have all been fully geared for pvp as opposed to me being the only geared pvp player at times in my random's. (let me be more specific for you as to not make assumptions -_-) nearly 25% of the time I was the only geared pvp player in my random group.

im sorry your experience was bad but mine has my at a 100% win ratio with a 3 premade gear ready group against random's of no gear lvl. we steamrolled them all! and I as a healer have no idea what you would be teaching another healer in PVP? how to Run? how to spot heal? jump maybe? oh I know how to remove de buffs from party members!

-_- No sthap please

so are you just responding to my post to try to look cool? cause you are going need a lot more than that smile emote face my friend.

Well, then it sounds like you are a part of the problem you want a solution to. You're telling me that you steamroll in the premades you want dismantled. Okay, fine. Stop running them.

Again, PVP is a week old. I doubt it's in its current form for any other reason than to give us PVP and to data mine.

Fine. You. Caught. Me. I. Was. Bored. And. Wanted. To. Be. Cool. I'll. Stahp.

And yes, teaching a healer how to PVP. Please don't tell me you think it's like PVE healing.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

I would also like to point out that the complaint of 3m premade injustice is quite a farce on the grounds that it's 3 "coordinated" people + 1uncoordinated person (fixed it for you) vs. 4 "uncoordinated" people.

The point is, PVP is nearly impossible to balance, and this solution isn't much of a solution due to the queue time punishment premades face or the injustice solo Q'ers face when dealing with premades--which they will still face because the queue times will have to be balanced.

all your saying here is that you agree solo que players are at a disadvantage but premade should still que with them due to a longer wait? you can easly just say what you said at the end of this very same post, if you dn't want to wait longer as a premade then que solo which would have significantly faster que, instead you prefer the solo under geared players have to deal with the geared pre-mades and tell them form a pre-made to have a better chance LMAO.....so no solution is your solution?

People in this thread complaining about the current state of PVP are living in some type of inconsolable utopian dream for which there are no provisions to making their reality come true.

I myself am not complaining I just agree with the OP as I have seen this issue, and inconsolable utopian dream -_- , its like giving your opinion on a FORUM for opinions is such a stretch for you! the OP stated what they think will help pvp while you stand here giving reason why no action should be taken at all? pvp is broken and does need some work but why would I agree with someone who thinks there is no solution of someone who does?

If you don't like PVP as it is, either form a premade, or take a break from it, and kill cute moogles.

this is your solution? LOL ok

how about we just agree to disagree, and you not reply to my post's further it would seem we are too "unbalanced" to come to a "solution" anyway.