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    BrandoH's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenTsani View Post
    Parsers don't, and CAN'T, give an accurate output on "deeps." Until the combat log is updated (which it probably won't be) they are extremely rough estimates at best, and CANNOT (not should not) be used as proof of anything in game right now because of those flaws.



    Stop what? Stop testing things for myself instead of taking the word of random people on the internet? Crit has decreasing returns, Skillspeed has increasing returns. Simple math, folks.
    Except I consistently parse the same with my set. Were you to give me some comparable logs (logged damage done over a fight, extremely relevant in the case of testing extremely high skill speed), and accuracy over the course of the fight given the few points under cap, and general idea of how TP starved you feel over the course of the fight, people could take you a bit more seriously.
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    Len Tsani
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrandoH View Post
    Except I consistently parse the same with my set. Were you to give me some comparable logs (logged damage done over a fight, extremely relevant in the case of testing extremely high skill speed), and accuracy over the course of the fight given the few points under cap, and general idea of how TP starved you feel over the course of the fight, people could take you a bit more seriously.
    Parsers don't work. I just ran the 3 big ones side by side and got 3 COMPLETELY different outputs against training dummy (one said 107.4, one said 212, one said 486. Good thing they're accurate, right?). They estimate, and aren't worth the time they took to set up. Also, I never miss. But hey, you all keep thinking that you need 483 acc, it really makes me smile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenTsani View Post
    Parsers don't, and CAN'T, give an accurate output on "deeps." Until the combat log is updated (which it probably won't be) they are extremely rough estimates at best, and CANNOT (not should not) be used as proof of anything in game right now because of those flaws.
    I didn't know that +/- 3% error was considered "extremely rough".

    Sounds like someone parses low and they're mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenTsani View Post
    BiS obtained through actual testing and not looking at broken stat weight forumulas:

    http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/7782/Skillspeed-Bard
    Looks very interesting to be honest since it is wht I'am currently aiming for myself. Just out of curiosity though, is the loss in DET gained by the amount of SS though? From what I noticed DET stacks fairly well up to around 250ish but I have yet to test SS at that high level due to the fact that I do not have enough SS.
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    Well your true Bis will be based around your Allagen weapon, so I can see that.
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    Apothica Darkstar
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    Hello there forum lovlies! This is my current set-up:
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3896909/

    Are there any pieces I need to swap?
    What's left ot upgrade?
    I know i need the boots from turn 4. My FC static just got it down last night so it's in the works. I got the choker but that actually lowers my ACC....
    Still trying to get the Vortex ring as well.
    I'm also confused on the choker. Allagan over ultima, which is best?

    I hope someone out there can help me :3
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    Last edited by Mergadeth; 01-18-2014 at 01:11 AM.

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    How exactly does crit have decreasing returns when we can't even hit 50% with max gear/food/straight shot buff/Internal Release?
    And how does skillspeed have increasing returns when it runs you out of TP faster as well as eventually causing on-globals to clip the animation lock of off-globals?
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    I do think people put too faith in parsers. With dots being guesstimated, they aren't really reliable.
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    Is there an established BiS for bard?
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    Ketsu Wotaberu
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    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LMKI

    You can use BRD Chapeau for the hat for a 467 acc set, which should still sit you at 100% for T5 if the extensive DRG testing is anything to consider. Keep your Allagan Visor handy for 2.2, however, as HQ eggs can put you all the way up to 482 if they raise the accuracy cap.
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